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Ron Webb
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"Explaining the context of this verse, Quranic Scholars (Muhammad Asad and Muhammad Ali) explain that the permission to fight and kill is being given regarding specific tribes already at war with the Muslims who have breached their peace agreements and have attacked the Muslims first." I have the Yusuf Ali translation, which includes a more detailed commentary. Ali explains that this Sura is a logical extension of the previous one (Sura 8). In fact, Muhammad directed that it was to "follow" Sura 8, and whether he meant that it formed part of that Sura or whether it forms a separate Sura was not completely clear. In any case, they are now generally regarded as separate Suras; but Ali maintains that Sura 9 must be read in the context of Sura 8. Sura 8 deals (among other things) with the formation of alliances and treaties with other nations. Sura 9 therefore explains what is to be done when those alliances break down and the other nations refuse to abide by them. Whatever. This is not my religion, so "I have no dog in this race", as the saying goes. What I don't understand is why so many non-Muslims and people like Sultan insist on the more extreme interpretation of such passages when there are plenty of credible Muslim scholars who offer a more benign explanation. Like I said, whose side are they on? They should be arguing against the extremists, shouldn't they? It's not like we (non-Muslims) can say that one interpretation or the other is objectively "true" or that Allah intended it one way or the other, because we don't believe any of it anyway. Why not support those scholars who are trying to make Islam compatible with modernity? |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Caringheart
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How can this be correct when the surah's are arranged according to length... not in the order in which they were revealed?
I get your point... IF, Islam can evolve... that is the big question to be determined and being addressed. |
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Ron Webb
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Not necessarily. Wikipedia knows all , but nobody knows the reason why Allah ordered the suras as He did:
Suras in the Quran are not arranged in the chronological order of revelation. Amin Ahsan Islahi says that the order of revelation has no significance for the present times, and the present arrangement is divinely ordained. |
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I think I do. To me this method is one of few ways to avoid tampering. I found few of them and I have placed one in the below website. I was just too lazy to continue when it comes to count the letters. But still I found quite few as well where the letters also used to protect the book. Maybe you have seen this or the kind like one, but this is definitely my works. http://www.freewebs.com/nothing-ness/numbersinquran.htm Edited by nothing - 26 August 2012 at 3:12pm |
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Ron Webb
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Well, this is a refreshing development:
My only question is, where were these guys when Salmaan Taseer was murdered? |
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