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Originally posted by malaviijurai malaviijurai wrote:

i come here today to ask in a intelligent forum some questions i have about Islam. i hope i receive with respectful answers. first let me say i was raised christian my whole life. as of the last year i felt i needed to know the truth i prayed to g-d for the truth, i was lead to Judaism.my prayers were granted and through Hashem i found peace and g-d as i have never known.i understand Islam worships the same g-d of Abraham Issac and Jacob, and fully believes in the prophets.if this is the case why do some muslims call for the destruction of israel when g-d himself says the following.<span ="reding">Jeremiah 30:3</span><span ="reding">Amos 9:14</span>isaiah 61:8-11there are many more prophesies concerning Israel and those who follow g-ds commandments, not just Jews. these prophecies come from the same g-d we believe in.i wish to live a quiet peaceful life and live for Hashem. why is this an issue for some muslims.peace scott.



I welcome you to this forum and am sorry that instead answering to your question, I got tangled with Caringheart.
It is very simple, submission to the Will of God is one thing and wishing destruction of someone or a country is another.
Those who obey God and the teachers, the prophets He sent are on the right guidance. Those who do not are on the wrong path.

Those who seek destruction of Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel and so on are only for self interest and at the end will have only fire as their abode.

A true believer respects human life, cattle and property as God commands in the Quran, the Final Testament.
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Aassalamualaikum Hasan.

Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:

instead answering to your question, I got tangled with Caringheart.


Ha ha ha, that's why she is here in this forum. To spoil any good debate. She sends me private messages and I send them straight to the trash without even reading it. I don't read her posts anymore. Just ignore her. I suggested her to spend her time on answering-islam.org. Let her waste her time there. Ha ha ha.

"So leave them to plunge in vain talk and play about, until they encounter that Day of theirs which they have been promised!The Day whereon they will issue from their sepulchres in sudden haste as if they were rushing to a goal-post (fixed for them),  Their eyes lowered in dejection, ignominy covering them (all over)! such is the Day the which they are promised! (Qur'an, 70:42-44)
The world is a dangerous place to live in, not because of the bad people, but because of the good people who does not do anything about it.
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It seems that some people are mixing the political with the religious. Keep them seperate and you will have a clear view of things Insha'Allah.
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Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:

A lie does not turn into truth because it is repeated million times over and over on paid media.
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Where does free media exist... east or west?
Where are you more likely to find truth?
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There is not such thing as Free media. You can say that media is more free than there, but its all relative. I personally have to go through a lot of different sources from around the world to get a better perspective. There is a media in the east that I have more respect for, it is RT.COM not that they are the truth but because what news you see being suppressed here you might find it covered better there. You have to scan all the sources and then determine best guess. Truth is being suppressed everywhere these days.
For example, we did not know about Joplin mosque burned to the ground here in the US. Or the Toledo mosque's fire attack recently. Many of you did not see these news anywhere, neither did I at first. But on the other hand you get the news of a church attack in Pakitan or somewhere there on all news outlets, why?
Bad acts of all deserve same attention and condemnation.
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Greetings Hasan,

" I personally have to go through a lot of different sources from around the world to get a better perspective."

I agree.  Me too, but sadly many people do not do so, and many just do not have the time for it.

As far as news not reported, there is lots not reported about persecution of Christians around the world too.  Do we ever hear of things happening to the Hindu's or Buddhists.  Mostly the news that gets reported is the news the media thinks people are interesting in hearing about... things that affect them directly... like weather, economy, jobs, elections... things that will get people to tune in or to buy a paper or magazine.
There is only so much that can be fit on the evening news.  Probably for the most part media in the west tries not to promote unrest.  While I think the news reporting in the mid-east does precisely the opposite.  I think it promotes hostility towards the world... to direct attention away from its own government and its own problems.

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Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:

There is not such thing as Free media.
I'm not sure where you live, but the media in the US and Canada is for all practical purposes free (in the sense of being uncensored).  If nothing else, the Internet pretty much guarantees the free exchange of information for those countries where Internet access is generally available.
 
You may be confusing "free" with "unbiased".  It is difficult if not impossible to find a media organization, especially a commercial one, that could not be accused of bias.  They are free to publish whatever they like, but their choices of content and the perspectives they offer are usually limited in some way.
Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Greetings Hasan,

Might I invite you to do as I did today... get a look at the big picture;

Google 'Christian persecution', 'Muslim persecution', Hindu persecution', Buddhist persecution'....  ignoring Wikipedia and looking at other sources... look for current news.

Salaam,
Caringheart
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