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Racist drivel Sasha...don't you tire of it yourself?
Your arrogance, ignorance and obstinate refusal to treat the actual issue at hand brings out nothing other than that in people. The only difference is that I mention it openly while most others on this board wish to be polite about it.

You are a living proof of what the world today believes about the Americans.

After reading a whole lot of your posts today, I have really started to feel for you. Perhaps, you don't know your own ultimate ignorance.

I would say, you know about this well...while accusing me of it, you seem to forget, conveniently, that you leveled blame and charges against the US military for which you had NO PROOF...how does it feel to operate in the condition that you impugn others with...this is called 'projection' in psychology - you would do well to acquaint yourself with this idea...you do this...

Unlike you and your theories of 'desecration' - I'll provide you with a link:
the act of perceiving a mental object as spatially and sensibly objective; also : something so perceived b : the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety

It's your failure to recognise that life's not some "B" grade movie court room scenes, it's a set of actual realities.

B: I'm all into reality.  If you look at my posts you'll notice that I discuss "complex reality" over and over again.  I would not expect you to recall the thrust of my discussions though, as you're too busy looking for ways to get personal with me...more of the projection nonsense..

It's not just some place where we come just to score some points or live with the fear of losing that score.

B: I have no aspiration nor fear of any such thing...but perhaps you do - you know projection and all...plus you've said this over and over again..I think we're getting the picture about you Sasha..

I won't go into what kind of childhood experiences normally create such an atitude.

B: I won't get into the specifics about projection - there are texts written on the subject..

But it could help to see someone and immediately. In your present state it would be hard for you to see anything in reality terms. I won't press any matter at this point out of sheer sympathy.

B: Forget about counseling man...very little can help you...

Slipping from the point has become your trade mark by now. Fear of facing the reality of Muslim Perception that was being discussed?

B: I've slipped from nothing.  You're the only slipping and shifting on this - as we shall see below.  Reality of Muslim Perception must ultimately be based on the facts and the experience of the facts of reality.  The facts are what I am attempting to discuss with you and that which you seem to be avoiding like the plague at the minute...I cannot really help you there sir...you must be set in your ways on that count.

You well know Newsweek retracted the retraction in June,

B: Oh do I?  This is nowhere to be seen in any of their literature on the net.  I plan to go to find out more about the hard copies one day soon...so far NOTHING from you...am I just to believe what you're saying because you read a couple of letters to the editor?

but you just want to waste our time.

B: Absolutely not.  I am willing to eat crow on this.  I'm simply asking you for proof and you are very reticent to give it.  I'm not sure why.

Why should I worry for your masters' image

B: This is offensive yet laughable in its irony...who is your master, sir?

as long as the Muslim world knows what happened and how the retraction was forced...

B: Sasha, you want us to believe that you are telling the facts and yet without proof.  Now you're shifting to 'the Muslim world knows what happened' - and so your conspiracy theory is complete...Sasha, do you make a habit of believing, promoting, even making things up and promoting them - to suit your ends?  Or are you at all shaped by the mature thought that charges, assertions and accusations need evidence that demands a verdict?

B: Sasha, you want us to believe that you are telling the facts and yet without proof.

I thought you knew the world better than all of us put together here and yet you want proof of the fact that the Muslim world was and is still affected by this incidence?

B: That is correct sir.  You have leveled a charge and now to the evidence.  What?  No evidence required?  That's called a kangeroo court.  It is your choice.  Do you wish to run the world by kangeroo courts?  Nice - and you complain about the US?

Why not table a New Topic: "Are the Muslims Really Affected by Koran Desecration" and just see.

B: Your presupposition is that there is Qur'an desecration.  You should be ashamed, especially as a non-Mulsim, for trying to rile up, for trying to promote a conflict, in an already tense world, about something that is based on nothing other than your juvenile and erroneous presuppositions.  It is people like yourself, and the irresponsible press, which has had to retract their egregious errors that cost lives, that contribute to the lack of understanding between peoples.

And yet without proof.  Still!  Where is your proof?  You keep saying that the Muslim world is affected by perceptions - absolutely  - and who is providing these perceptions - these erroneous pictures?  The US troops are not about to desecrate the Qur'an.  For you to suggest these things without proof and then appeal to people's perceptions as your evidence is the height of arrogance.

Again - I can call you and your ilk child molestors for the next 365 days in a row, drum up phony media, point to how poeple react to the alleged child molestors - calling you a hypocrite and a criminal - and then, when asked my you or your ilk to provide proof - I could appeal to people's reactions and feelings as my evidence that means that OBVIOUSLY you and your ilk are child molestors - because of how all these others have reacted to that notion.

Oops Sasha - you and your ilk been convicted of child molestation by the kangeroo court.

Such is the state of your case of Qur'an desecration by US troops...

And yet without proof.
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