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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2005 at 10:03pm

This in regard to minor incidents

Only an American would take the desecration of the Qura'n as a minor incident. You are right it's almost like getting a car written off in some accident!!

I have understood your level and I am not going to waste any more time lsitening to your theatricals.

Thanks. My last post to you.



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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

This in regard to minor incidents

Only an American would take the desecration of the Qura'n as a minor incident.

B: Only a non-Muslim Communist would write this in big lettering on a Muslim board to try to stir up strife.  Look some people on this board belittle what happened on 9/11 visi vi Iraq and even Afghanistan.  What about that DESECRATION?  How come I never hear you going on and on and going apoplectic about that?  Are you just so plainly bigoted and agenda driven...oh, you're transparent...

I have understood your level

Thanks. My last post to you.

B: That's funny - you've written that now about 3 times...hahahaha...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2005 at 3:18am

Love your dialogues and that coal Dance!

I don't have to stir up any strife. The Neo Cons like you are doing much better a job by belittling Muslim perceptions in their own idiotic manners.

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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Love your dialogues and that coal Dance!

I don't have to stir up any strife. The Neo Cons like you are doing much better a job by belittling Muslim perceptions in their own idiotic manners.



No idiocy on my part - I'm no 'neo con' either - but you've never shrunk back from generalizations and even bigotry, so why start now, huh Sasha?
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Just to redirect this off of Sasha's nonsensical personal diatribes let's review the topic of the thread:
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Kathleen A asked:

When the history of this time is written do you think historians will acknowledge that a horrible dictator was removed, freeing the Iraqi people? Or do you think this important point will always be lost on those hell-bent on ignoring the GOOD and only highlighting the bad?

Ali: I think no one would be able to deny or ignore that a horrible dictator was removed and I trust that history will judge those who opposed Iraq freedom very harshly just as it will honor all those who worked to free Iraq.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:37pm

We would have believed your "Ali" only if he had a more realistic name and lived somewhere other than just some internet site. Now you understand why people don't take Americans seriously - without their guns.

I'm no 'neo con' either

Okay, you are just a Neo Con groupie. When will they let you in on the main band? You really think we are so gullible that we can't see when someone is just pasting the worn out Neo Con lies on the site? Iraqi Freedom? With 14 huge bases stuck all around them?

 



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Only pathological liars, ConMen, Neo Cons and habitual war criminals will try and force upon us that Eyerak is Free.

R E A D and enjoy the lies being posted on this site by supporters of Ultra Right Wing Death Cultists.

Iraqi law minister blasts US detentions

Wednesday 14 September 2005

Iraq's justice minister has condemned the US military for detaining thousands of Iraqis for long periods without charge and wants to change a UN resolution that gives foreign troops immunity from Iraqi law.

Speaking to Reuters, Justice Minister Abdul Hussein Shandal also criticised US detentions of Iraqi journalists and said the media, contrary to US policy in Iraq, must have special legal protection to report on all sides in the conflict.

"No citizen should be arrested without a court order," he said this week, complaining that US suggestions that his ministry had an equal say on detentions were misleading.

"There is abuse [of human rights] due to detentions, which are overseen by the Multinational Force (MNF) and are not in the control of the Justice Ministry," said Shandal, a Shia judge respected for standing up to Saddam Hussein on the rule of law.

UN resolution

Killings and unjustified arrests of Iraqi civilians by US troops risked going unpunished, he said, because of UN Security Council resolution 1546, which granted US-led forces sweeping powers following their overthrow of Saddam in 2003.

"The resolution ... gives immunity to the MNF and means taking no action against the MNF no matter what happens or whatever they do against the people of Iraq," Shandal said.

"We're hoping to make more efforts with the Security Council and the whole United Nations to end this resolution or amend it so that anyone who violates Iraqi law or assaults any citizen is held accountable," he said.

"This is a matter of sovereignty."

He said he was pressing US forces to speed up releases for some of the 10,000 Iraqis held at Abu Ghraib prison and elsewhere, often for many months without charge, on suspicion of aiding Sunni Arab fighters.

US forces pressed

Last month, 1000 men were freed from Abu Ghraib as Iraq's Shia-led government and Washington tried to appease the once dominant Sunni minority.

The United Nations said last week faster releases could promote Sunni acceptance of the new political system.

Iraqi officials voice frustration with US and British vetoes on some requests for release, noting that Iraqis have been held for two years without charge to "gather intelligence".

Speaking of the Combined Review and Release Board (CRRB) which guarantees detainees a hearing every six months, Shandal said: "The representatives of the MNF in the committee have the rights and all the authority under the UN resolution."
 
Journalists detained

Shandal said he was concerned about the US military's refusal to accord special consideration to the media and at the number of journalists detained for many months by US troops.
  
Among these is Reuters cameraman Ali Omar Ibrahim al-Mashhadani, who was ordered detained by the CRRB last month as a "threat to the people of Iraq". The military will not say what suspicions it has against him.

Asked to clarify the CRRB definition of "threat", Shandal said: "It's a catch-all term to portray this person as a threat to the nation and allow the other side to keep him in custody."

Asked if the government approved of such measures, which US generals say they implement with Iraqi official support, he said: "I am a man of law and a judge and I respect human rights... No citizen should be arrested without a court order."

Special protection

Although the nature of their work brings journalists under suspicion from both sides, the US command in Iraq refuses to consider special treatment for accredited reporters and says it will detain them under the same conditions as any other suspect.

Shandal, however, said journalists needed special protection and defended independent reporting from all sides, including from fighter-held areas.

He insisted on journalists' right to film and interview Iraq's fighters without fear of arrest or worse.

"In this time of conflict ... between terrorists and the army or Multinational Forces, the journalist comes to the fore.

"Full freedom should be given to journalists to take pictures and film in the field," he said. "Without images what would we know of history? We would know nothing."
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"Iraq's justice minister has condemned the US military for detaining thousands of Iraqis for long periods without charge"

But Sasha, you don't recognize the government in Iraq - do you?? And the government in Iraq is criticizing the US - doesn't that mean they are free?  It means EXACTLY THAT.
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