Crucifixion of Jesus

islamispeace wrote: What if you have been deceived?

Greetings islamispeace,

Do you think I haven't asked myself, what if the muslims are right?
Have you asked yourself, what if the Christians are right?
This is why I say we must look at what our religion might require us to do, and discern truth. 
This is why it is so important to discern what is evil(and what is leading us to do evil) and what is good.

To really look at our religion to see what is really at the root of it.  What does our religion really teach.
My religion does not fill me with prejudice and mistrust of others.  My religion teaches love for others, and dilligence in watching my own behavior(being careful to keep my own eyes free from splinters)... giving others the benefit of the doubt... innocent unless shown beyond a doubt to be guilty, not the other way around... and if I myself am not free from sin(and none of us are, if we say we are then we are liars and the Truth is not in us, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God), then I have no right to cast stones at others.  I may speak to them, but I have no right to condemn them.  God has the power to forgive sins, and to turn us from wicked ways. 
We get this through the Son, Yshwe... through His sacrifice made for us. 

When you can understand what was done for us... the suffering He endured for our sakes...  we can not turn ourselves from the temptations and from wicked leanings, but when we come to know the sacrifice of Yshwe we are turned by the power of that knowledge... Yshwe is the Way, the Truth and the Life... it is His sacrifice(understanding that sacrifice... believing, not denying it) that leads us home.  Living in denial will never lead a soul home.
Having carefully examined, and continually re-visiting and re-examining the evidence, I am unable to conclude that Muhammad was a prophet of God.  I see his religion as propagating alot of human judgment(prejudice) and mistrust, which leads to chaos.

asalaam,
CH

'It's really satan, the enemy of God, that is the enemy of us all.  He wears away the society, speaking against the most high, seeking to remove Him, watering down and destroying God's Word.'


Edited by Caringheart - 27 September 2014 at 1:19pm

Caringheart wrote: islamispeace wrote: What if you have been deceived?   Greetings islamispeace, Do you think I haven't asked myself, what if the muslims are right? Have you asked yourself, what if the Christians are right? This is why I say we must look at what our religion might require us to do, and discern truth.  This is why it is so important to discern what is evil(and what is leading us to do evil) and what is good. To really look at our religion to see what is really at the root of it.  What does our religion really teach. My religion does not fill me with prejudice and mistrust of others.  My religion teaches love for others, and dilligence in watching my own behavior(being careful to keep my own eyes free from splinters)... giving others the benefit of the doubt... innocent unless shown beyond a doubt to be guilty, not the other way around... and if I myself am not free from sin(and none of us are, if we say we are then we are liars and the Truth is not in us, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God), then I have no right to cast stones at others.  I may speak to them, but I have no right to condemn them.  God has the power to forgive sins, and to turn us from wicked ways.  We get this through the Son, Yshwe... through His sacrifice made for us.  When you can understand what was done for us... the suffering He endured for our sakes...  we can not turn ourselves from the temptations and from wicked leanings, but when we come to know the sacrifice of Yshwe we are turned by the power of that knowledge... Yshwe is the Way, the Truth and the Life... it is His sacrifice(understanding that sacrifice... believing, not denying it) that leads us home.  Living in denial will never lead a soul home. Having carefully examined, and continually re-visiting and re-examining the evidence, I am unable to conclude that Muhammad was a prophet of God.  I see his religion as propagating alot of human judgment(prejudice) and mistrust, which leads to chaos. asalaam, CH 'It's really satan, the enemy of God, that is the enemy of us all.  He wears away the society, speaking against the most high, seeking to remove Him, watering down and destroying God's Word.'

If you think that your idea of "love" somehow determines the truth of a religion, then you should probably be a Buddhist or a Jain. 

Your religion is self-contradictory.  On the one hand, you preach "love" but on the other hand, your religion teaches that anyone who believes differently from you is the "anti-Christ" which is just like saying that they are of the devil.  Yeah, that's "love" alright!

In my view, what a religion teaches is not the only way we determine its truth.  There are many factors.  Studying the history of the religion, its development of ideas and its "scripture" reveals much about its truthfulness or falsehood.  In having done a detailed study of Christianity and Islam, I have found that Christianity is a false religion that has deceived billions of souls through a false promise of "salvation" that was mostly preached by a self-declared "apostle" named Paul, a man who never even met Jesus but who presumed to know everything he taught.  A detailed and non-biased study of the history of Christianity and its "scriptures" will inevitably lead a person to this one conclusion.

islamispeace wrote: You didn't answer my question: Do you know what is the origin of the name "Yahweh"?

I was waiting for you to share. 

islamispeace wrote: Caringheart wrote: rich tapestry of the Quran, weaving through a number of themes, including the mystery of God, surrender to the divine will, and provisions for the spiritual journey.  "Doesn't even your teaching tell you that allah is unknowable?" Shall the Lord declare that your own right hand can save you? Is it you, or He that has all knowledge of Himself? You still haven't answered; Was Moses able to look upon the face of God? Is anyone? Actually, I did answer the question.  If you overlooked it, that's not my problem.  As I said, Moses (peace be upon him) was not able to look upon God,

Correct.
God told Moses;

²⁰ And He said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

I believe the Creator understands the dimensions of things which I can not, and that He is better qualified to speak on His behalf than I. 

My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways. - Isaiah 55:8

asalaam.

Shall the Lord declare that your own right hand can save you?
Is it you, or He that has all knowledge of Himself?

Edited by Caringheart - 27 September 2014 at 5:12pm