quran and science

Ron Webb wrote: Let me ask again: is Allah's "spirit" made of carbon?� Because it would have to be, if "process 2" (breathing His "spirit" into a body made of clay) would add carbon atoms.

See how these discussions are opening new frontiers for science to explore! Unfortunately, I am neither a so called science fan to blindly speculate and theorize, nor am I a "know it all" to answer your question.

Ron Webb wrote: No, we are not comparable to Allah.� In the first place, we actually exist, whereas Allah does not.� More importantly, we are not so arrogant to suggest that we can reproduce in a single laboratory experiment the product of billions of years of evolution.� The point of the experiment mentioned by airmano is not that we can create life "from scratch" in a test tube (yet).� The point is that the creation of life is a purely physical process -- still beyond our capabilities, but there is nothing mystical about it.

I understand that for a man of science to definitively say something does not exist, it should be proved conclusively beyond doubt. So I wonder if you have got that sort of a proof when you say Allah does not exist!

And you admit that absolute creation is beyond human capabilities, then on what grounds you say there is nothing mystical about something which is clearly beyond your capabilities!

E Marshall Johnson, T.V.N persaud, Joe Leigh Simpson were covinced about Quran being word of Allah.

I couldn't find much information about "E Marshall Johnson" (of course there are a lot of wildly speculating Islamic pages).
Having said so all the videos about him are old and I couldn't find anything recent about him. There doesn't seem to be a Wikientry under his name (so he was probably not only half as important as claimed) and I also couldn't find anything about his personal/religious convictions.

Well after all, let's agree that a rather unknown Professor once said that the Quranic claims about embryology are correct.

So what ?


Airmano

Edited by airmano - 05 November 2014 at 1:19pm

Ron Webb wrote: Here is Johnson's "ringing endorsement" ([IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" />) of the Quran: "I see no evidence for the fact to refute the concept that this individual, Muhammad, had to be developing this information from some place. So I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write."In exchange for which, he got a free trip to Saudi Arabia, a stay in a posh hotel, fancy banquets, etc.� Shucks, with a deal like that I'd happily say the same thing! [IMG]smileys/smiley36.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="LOL" />And not incidentally, all of the guys mentioned by NABA were invited to the same Saudi conference and were bribed/duped by al-Zindani in exactly the same way.� (Although in Johnson's case, I'd say he duped them. [IMG]smileys/smiley4.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Big%20smile" />)

I know some people may find these news paper stories of conspiracy, bribe etc. amusing. But not all would buy such speculative stories in the absence of solid evidence. Further:

1. It is hard to believe that men of such academic background were so naive to act like puppets in someone's hand to endorse something they did not actually believe that could damage their reputation so badly.

2. They were already well established in the society in reputable positions (that will mean even financially) and with excellent previous track records, so there is no reason to believe that they were just after the money to risk all the good reputation they have earned so far.

So the bottom line is on one hand we have the real endorsements by real people out there in public domain and on the other hand we have all these speculative stories attributing bribery, hidden motives etc. based on shaky grounds as usual. So it is up to the neutral minds out there to choose what they want to believe.

Moreover Dr. Maurice Bucaille is a Muslim now.
Prof. Tejatat Tejasen is a Muslim now.