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Niqab! Wajib or Sunnah?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brother123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2005 at 8:09am

queenie if you do not even know about khadija then doesnt it make you ignorenet ?

Your knowledge of our mother khadijah is extremely poor and yes she was very inteligent women but your inteligence is completelly lacking.

What is amazing is a grown women who does not know diffrence between pre islamic and Islam days. Pre hijab and hijab period.

To Allah the worst Muslim women is better than the best kaffir kaffir women. But i guess you could not understand tht since your inteligence is completelly lacking.

Dawah is done through honesty not by lying.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lameese Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2005 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by Brother123 Brother123 wrote:

queenie if you do not even know about khadija then doesnt it make you ignorenet ?

Your knowledge of our mother khadijah is extremely poor and yes she was very inteligent women but your inteligence is completelly lacking.

What is amazing is a grown women who does not know diffrence between pre islamic and Islam days. Pre hijab and hijab period.

To Allah the worst Muslim women is better than the best kaffir kaffir women. But i guess you could not understand tht since your inteligence is completelly lacking.

Dawah is done through honesty not by lying.

 

Oh Please! Aren't you the pot calling the kettel black! Look in the mirror before you ever call anyone else ignorant!

 

Also, please do not tell us what Allah thinks!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote queenie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2005 at 2:54pm

Brother 123.......you are so JAAHIL.

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"To Allah the worst Muslim women is better than the best kaffir kaffir women. But i guess you could not understand tht since your inteligence is completelly lacking"

May be you are right. I was merely making the point of who are we to judge? we are not allah. because many muslims are hypocrites and the hypocrites are worse than the kufaar and so is their punishment. and Allah knows best!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2005 at 2:56pm

As a non muslim woman, I can say, I've never stripped naked to sell more candy bars than someone else.    Brother123, you should understand that a pious christian woman is also forbidden to have sex before marriage and to engage in lewd behavior.  That is, if you're in a denomination that's worth something.  There are denominations that accept sinful things like homosexuality and such, but even other christians denounce them.  Islam has its darker sides too.  Not all "practices" are accepted.  There was a great thread here that had a link to the Pakistani laws on zina and their regards to rape. 

Brother123, my suggestion is if you are going to keep posting in the sister's area, you need to be less judgemental and more informative.  You have yet to post scripture backing up many of your claims...and the few you have posted in others are full of commentary or editing. 

If you think that the Nijaab is wijab or sunnah, then you need to post a scriptural arguement rather than insulting western women.  Trust me, if I was seriously looking into Islam as a possible convert, your words would cause me to turn away.  The women here are faithful and valiant, the western sisters have an even greater jihad as they must fight past the bigotry and prejudice to practice their faith.  Your attitude diminishes their struggles by insulting their devotion to Islam and their obedience to Allah. 

One must HUMBLE themselves before God.  A humble man does not judge others, that's God's job.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote queenie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2005 at 12:55pm

Angela... Just wanted to know what you mean by "islam has its darker sides"?

 

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Originally posted by Saido Saido wrote:

  Asalamu Alaykum

I would like to know whether the niqab is wajib or not. Please tell me your thoughts and reason why.

                                                               Salaam.

I do not believe niqab is wajib/fard.  To my understanding only the wives of the prophet  s.a.w had to wear it.  But they were not like other women.  Allah s.w.t clearly states this in Quran.  There are some restrictions/rules that apply only to the wives of the Prophet s.a.w .  For example, widows are allowed to remarry however, the wives of the prophet were not allowed to marry after him.  wallahu a'lam

Personally, I think niqab is a beautiful thing.  With the amount of fitna we have in the muslim communities any woman that wants to wear it and is able to should.  

Salaam

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Originally posted by Saido Saido wrote:

  Asalamu Alaykum

I would like to know whether the niqab is wajib or not. Please tell me your thoughts and reason why.

                                                               Salaam.

I don't believe niqab is wajib/fard.  To my knowledge it was only mandatory for the wives of the prophet s.a.w.  However, his wives were not like other believing women.  Allah has clearly stated this in the Quran.  There are some restrictions/rules that apply only to the wives of the prophet s.a.w.  For example, his wives were not allowed to marry after him; however, widows are allowed to remarry in Islam.

Personally, I think niqab is a beautiful thing.  With all the fitna we have in the world there is a need for it.  Any woman that wants to wear it and is able to wear it should wear it.  But just because it's good doesn't mean it's fard.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2005 at 10:56am
Queenie, I meant extremists....not mainstream islam.  They are the darker side of islam.  The Taliban and other groups who break away from the light in Islam.
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