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Hello all,

I had forgotten all about this.  Here is what my friend wrote back.

Meteorologically, clouds don't form over deserts because there isn't enough moisture to form clouds over the desert. At 115 degrees, it would take a larger quantity of moisture to form clouds than it does at 85 or 90 when we get pop-up thunderstorms. The water that evaporates just floats in the sky because there isn't enough to form clouds that produce rain. If I recall correctly, most of the time when it rains in the desert, the storms form somewhere else and are blown over the desert. Except for when it rains several inches in a few hours, then there's enough available moisture for storms to form later that afternoon or the next day. I'm quite rusty and I didn't concentrate my studies that much about desert climates, but I don't think what I've said is inaccurate.

I don't know if water molecules break up when they evaporate the way salt does when it dissolves. I don't think it does, because a phase change is different than dissolution. I think water molecules require a chemical reaction to break apart, but don't quote me on that.

All I can say is the explanations provided by science do nothing to diminish the role of God in our universe and our lives. Their explanation of how their god disperses water is pretty much an explanation of the water cycle, which is great.

Smile - smile is from me,

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2015 at 3:34am
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


But water remains molecular water, H2O, the whole time, whether as a gas, liquid or solid (ice).�


The holy trinity?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2015 at 10:15am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

But water remains molecular water, H2O, the whole time, whether as a gas, liquid or solid (ice).
The holy trinity?

Actually, the three common physical states of matter.  Water is one of only a very few substances that we commonly experience in all three phases on earth.  For most other substances, the melting or boiling points are so either so low or so high that we only encounter them in artificial conditions (in a lab, blast furnace, etc.)

If you're looking for a metaphysical connection, you can add the fourth state of matter, called plasma, which occurs at extremely high temperatures where electrons break loose from atomic nuclei and move freely among a cloud of positively charged ions.  It occurs rarely on earth -- briefly in the path of a lightning bolt, and occasionally in very high temperature flames -- but is not really possible for us to observe directly outside a lab.

The four states of matter correspond with the four Greek "elements" of earth (solid), water (liquid), air (gaseous), and fire (plasma).  We could then wonder at how the ancients could have known about plasma, speculate that they must have had access to divine knowledge, and conclude that we ought to be worshipping Zeus.

Or we could just shrug our shoulders and say it's a coincidence. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2015 at 3:11am
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


Actually, the three common physical states of matter.� Water is one of only a very few substances that we commonly experience in all three phases on earth.� For most other substances, the melting or boiling points are so either so low or so high that we only encounter them in artificial conditions (in a lab, blast furnace, etc.)If you're looking for a metaphysical connection, you can add the fourth state of matter, called plasma, which occurs at extremely high temperatures where electrons break loose from atomic nuclei and move freely among a cloud of positively charged ions.� It occurs rarely on earth -- briefly in the path of a lightning bolt, and occasionally in very high temperature flames -- but is not really possible for us to observe directly outside a lab.The four states of matter correspond with the four Greek "elements" of earth (solid), water (liquid), air (gaseous), and fire (plasma).� We could then wonder at how the ancients could have known about plasma, speculate that they must have had access to divine knowledge, and conclude that we ought to be worshipping Zeus.Or we could just shrug our shoulders and say it's a coincidence. [IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" />


Not common at all. What kind of a normal situation uses a lab or a blast furnace?

By the way, the ancient Greeks are responsible for a lot of the heathen belief system in existence today. The Planets, for example, there are no other planets than our own planet earth.

You worship Zeus if you like, better to worhip something than nothing ey?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2015 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


Actually, the three common physical states of matter.  Water is one of only a very few substances that we commonly experience in all three phases on earth.  For most other substances, the melting or boiling points are so either so low or so high that we only encounter them in artificial conditions (in a lab, blast furnace, etc.)If you're looking for a metaphysical connection, you can add the fourth state of matter, called plasma, which occurs at extremely high temperatures where electrons break loose from atomic nuclei and move freely among a cloud of positively charged ions.  It occurs rarely on earth -- briefly in the path of a lightning bolt, and occasionally in very high temperature flames -- but is not really possible for us to observe directly outside a lab.The four states of matter correspond with the four Greek "elements" of earth (solid), water (liquid), air (gaseous), and fire (plasma).  We could then wonder at how the ancients could have known about plasma, speculate that they must have had access to divine knowledge, and conclude that we ought to be worshipping Zeus.Or we could just shrug our shoulders and say it's a coincidence. [IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" />


Not common at all. What kind of a normal situation uses a lab or a blast furnace?

By the way, the ancient Greeks are responsible for a lot of the heathen belief system in existence today. The Planets, for example, there are no other planets than our own planet earth.

You worship Zeus if you like, better to worhip something than nothing ey?


Any electrical spark is plasma.

When I use my welder I create plasma which melts the metal it is in contact with.

Surely you are just trolling??? Otherwise I will have to presume that your are having some sort of private competition to be the st**idest.

I say this as an attempt to get you more sane and less mad.
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Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:


Any electrical spark is plasma.

When I use my welder I create plasma which melts the metal it is in contact with.

Surely you are just trolling??? Otherwise I will have to presume that your are having some sort of private competition to be the st**idest.

I say this as an attempt to get you more sane and less mad.

Greetings Tim the plumber,

I really don't think there's any need to be rude when someone shares their different beliefs.
Any of us could be wrong about what we believe.  I think compassion is the better way.

asalaam,
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@Tim the Plumber on: "I say this as an attempt to get you more sane and less mad. "

It's a psychological case, so I think there is no point in trying to convince AbuL using logic.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2015 at 11:39am
People PLASMA is not very important in the grand scheme of things. :)

Calm down dear it's only a commercial.
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