The Moon (Part 2)

AbuL: I've noticed that any thinking that is outside of what has been taught to you at school seems to scare you.

When it comes to science you have to see that our modern day knowledge is the essence of hundreds of years of striving, rethinking, testing, rethinking and sometimes even overthrowing (or rather "enlarging") theories when a deeper understanding became visible.
There is only one "truth" but an infinite number of wrongs.

Nobody could (so far) overthrow Quantum mechanics (QM), Electrodyamics, Relativity and Boltzmanns Statistical mechanics but your 1400 years old book is so full of personal stories and errors, that even a blind man can see that it is a diary + some freely invented parts (easy to recognize because they contain no information) + a bit of copy and paste from the Bible/Torah and a couple of things relayed from the Greeks.
A mix of everything like "The Sun" in the UK with barely any useful information, if you see what I mean.

Sure Science is not a religion, but it has at least a sound basis and the above cited theories get only criticized by two groups of people:

A) Geniuses (like Einstein)
B) Ignorants (that do not even remotely understand its content, mainly because it is hard work to do so).

To distinguish between A) and B) you have to test their knowledge which A) has, but not B).
Group B) is obviously a much bigger than A).

I don't think you belong to A).

And 'yes' it frightens me to see ignorance gaining ground worldwide again.


Airmano

Edited by airmano - 03 September 2015 at 11:34am

Abu Loren wrote: airmano wrote: When it comes to science you have to see that our modern day knowledge is the essence of hundreds of years of striving, rethinking, testing, rethinking and sometimes even overthrowing (or rather "enlarging") theories when a deeper understanding became visible. There is only one "truth" but an infinite number of wrongs. Your modern day knowledge is based on THEORY full stop. Nothing has been proven of gravity or Einstein's theory of BS. Nor come to that matter of Copernicus' THEORY or the earth being a globe. So I think that you scientific types have still a lot to prove.

Abu,

Have you ever used a sat-nav?

That system uses the theory that the earth is a sphere (ish) and that gravity behavies as per Newton's description/maths and Einstein's theories. If any of those were wrong it would not work.

Each and every time my sat-nav locates it's position it tests these theories.

Ron Webb wrote: Your medieval knowledge is based on BELIEF, full stop.

The proof is the world that I'm now living in, which He created for me and you. We live, die and are resurrected otherwise ther is no meaning to our lives.

Ron Webb wrote: Science rarely claims that anything is "proven"; but scientific theories such as universal gravitation and the Copernican theory have been tested innumerable times and have never been falsified.� So much so, that no scientist who has studied them has any doubt about them.

The theories have been tested by people who studied the same books that these theorists have written. Do you see something seriously wrong here?

Ron Webb wrote: Islam is not just unproven, it is untestable.� There is no way it could be proven.� Moreover, theologians have innumerable similar but conflicting beliefs (e.g., Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism).� Most of them do not believe Islam.

As I said above, there are proofs all around us and all the believers know this. As a believer I know that there is no way that this world could come into existance by accident. Look all around you, this world and everything that is in it are working in perfect harmony, obeying the natural Laws of the Almighty.

The Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said in a Hadith that all animals that care for their younglings are because of the Mercy of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala. Meaning that without His Mercy the animals (inclucing ) human beings can easily abandon their young and leave them to fend for themselves, in which case they would not survive for long.

A believer knows.

Tim the plumber wrote: Abu,Have you ever used a sat-nav?That system uses the theory that the earth is a sphere (ish) and that gravity behavies as per Newton's description/maths and Einstein's theories. If any of those were wrong it would not work. Each and every time my sat-nav locates it's position it tests these theories.

NO I haven't and I didn't have to yet. Come to think of it I don't think I will ever use it.

Sat-navs and Google Earth for that matter use a simple grid matrix of the earth. It doesn't matter if the earth is flat , all you do is divide the land and sea into parts and then give it grid locations.