IslamiCity.org Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > General > Science & Technology
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The Moon (Part 2)  What is Islam What is Islam  Donate Donate
  FAQ FAQ  Quran Search Quran Search  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

The Moon (Part 2)

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2223242526 33>
Author
Message
Abu Loren View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1646
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2015 at 3:26am
Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:



Greetings Abu Loren,Think.� You are not making sense.You are saying that every person that has ever flown a space mission is a liar... is lying... is making up their experiences.It's just not logical.You say 'trust your eyes and your senses'... when you look out across an ocean, do you not see the curve of the earth?Do you really not understand when you see the sun 'disappear' below the horizon?Do you not see that both sun and moon move in arc's as they pass through day and night?Why do you suppose that the sun does not merely rise in one place and go down in one place?� For that matter, why does it not just blink on and off like a lamp?Trust your senses... yes... trust your senses.asalaam,Caringheart


The conspiracy to hide the flat earth is really incredible and yes hard to believe.

I believe that the USA 'got away' with the Moon landing missions because they made a pact with the Russians. They gave them something in return and the Russians just kept quiet.

When you look deep inside this cover up there isn't that many people involved. The minions who work on the 'satellites and ships' are genuine phd scientists who are not in the inner sanctum. They are hired in a 'meed to know basis' and they just do their job. The real criminals are a handful who control everything, including the huge budgets.

Just ask yourselves this. Recently a documentary maker went out and tracked down all the US 'astronauts' and asked them to put their hand on the Bible and swear they went to the moon. They all denied to do this, and what's more some even physically abused him. Why? Have they all have something to hide? Like they've never been to outer space let alone the Moon? Something tp ponder.
La Ilaha IllAllah
Back to Top
Ron Webb View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar
Male atheist
Joined: 30 January 2008
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 2467
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2015 at 8:29am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

By the way, do you refute any of the points that they make?

I refuted them almost two months ago: If the earth is flat, then when the sun sets, it sets everywhere.  But we know that the sun is always visible somewhere on the planet.

Right now, it's about 10:30 a.m. in Winnipeg and the sun is well above the horizon and shining brightly.  If the earth is flat, then you should be able to see it.  Can you?
Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
Back to Top
Caringheart View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 02 March 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 2991
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Caringheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2015 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


But you didn't answer my question.  Where are you getting these weird ideas about water and the flat earth?  Did you find them in the Quran, or did you just make them up yourself?


There is a world wide phenomena called 'The Awakening' where millions of people are being shown the TRUTH. The veil which satan has cast over the past 500 or so years is being lifted.

You can find this Awakening and the explanations of the flat earth which I subscribe to on Youtube. Just search for 'flat earth'.

ALL of it makes perfect sense.

Greetings Abu Loren,

I did as you suggested and googled 'flat earth' and watched at least one of those youtube video's... then my computer reset itself and I lost my notes, but I do remember this one thing...

the video was talking about a wall at the edges...
no explorer has ever come up against any 'wall'...
an explorer can start at one point and keep on going until they come full circle and arrive back at their starting point.
Explorer's have done this very thing in sailing around the world... and flying around the world... and trekking across the planet.

asalaam,
Caringheart
Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis
Back to Top
Caringheart View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 02 March 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 2991
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Caringheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2015 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:



Greetings Abu Loren,Think.  You are not making sense.You are saying that every person that has ever flown a space mission is a liar... is lying... is making up their experiences.It's just not logical.You say 'trust your eyes and your senses'... when you look out across an ocean, do you not see the curve of the earth?Do you really not understand when you see the sun 'disappear' below the horizon?Do you not see that both sun and moon move in arc's as they pass through day and night?Why do you suppose that the sun does not merely rise in one place and go down in one place?  For that matter, why does it not just blink on and off like a lamp?Trust your senses... yes... trust your senses.asalaam,Caringheart


The conspiracy to hide the flat earth is really incredible and yes hard to believe.

I believe that the USA 'got away' with the Moon landing missions because they made a pact with the Russians. They gave them something in return and the Russians just kept quiet.

When you look deep inside this cover up there isn't that many people involved. The minions who work on the 'satellites and ships' are genuine phd scientists who are not in the inner sanctum. They are hired in a 'meed to know basis' and they just do their job. The real criminals are a handful who control everything, including the huge budgets.

Just ask yourselves this. Recently a documentary maker went out and tracked down all the US 'astronauts' and asked them to put their hand on the Bible and swear they went to the moon. They all denied to do this, and what's more some even physically abused him. Why? Have they all have something to hide? Like they've never been to outer space let alone the Moon? Something tp ponder.

Greetings Abu Loren,

Interestingly, Buzz Aldrin was just in the news, talking about colonizing Mars within 25 years.
Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis
Back to Top
Tim the plumber View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar
Male
Joined: 30 September 2014
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 944
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2015 at 1:45am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by airmano airmano wrote:



When I stumbled over this Website for the first time I couldn't believe my eyes, but I thought that there would be only a handful of those mental cases around the globe.
Therefore I estimated the likelyhood that I'd ever "encounter" one of them as being very close to zero.

May be I should look at the fact that it turned out otherwise as a miracle.


Airmano


You can't believe your eyes because you've been taught that the earth is a globe since you were in kindergarten. You don't have the capacity to challenge that fact or is it a theory?


Abu,

If you can explain why the day starts at different times in different places around the world depnding on your position east/west then you might have a point.

The only explaination I have is that the earth is a rotating shpere.

Back to Top
Abu Loren View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1646
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2015 at 3:39am
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

I refuted them almost two months ago: If the earth is flat, then when the sun sets, it sets everywhere.� But we know that the sun is always visible somewhere on the planet.Right now, it's about 10:30 a.m. in Winnipeg and the sun is well above the horizon and shining brightly.� If the earth is flat, then you should be able to see it.� Can you?


Obviously you didn't pay attention to any of the videos there.

This phenomenon is easily explained. If you look at their flat earth model you will see that the sun goes around in a circle, also the sun does not shine the whole earth but only half of it. Hence the reason that one half of the world is darkness and the other in light.
La Ilaha IllAllah
Back to Top
Ron Webb View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar
Male atheist
Joined: 30 January 2008
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 2467
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2015 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Obviously you didn't pay attention to any of the videos there.

I've watched enough videos to know that most of them are a waste of time.  If you want to recommend one (and only one), I'll take a look at it and tell you why it's a waste of time.  I should warn you though that if it spouts a bunch of "factoids" without saying where it got the information (as most of them do), then that's already your answer.

Quote This phenomenon is easily explained. If you look at their flat earth model you will see that the sun goes around in a circle, also the sun does not shine the whole earth but only half of it. Hence the reason that one half of the world is darkness and the other in light.

If the sun is above the horizon everywhere, then why can't we see it everywhere?  And if it's farther away at sunset and sunrise than when it's overhead, then why is it the same angular diameter?
Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
Back to Top
Abu Loren View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1646
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2015 at 4:28am
Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:



Greetings Abu Loren,I did as you suggested and googled 'flat earth' and watched at least one of those youtube video's... then my computer reset itself and I lost my notes, but I do remember this one thing...the video was talking about a wall at the edges...no explorer has ever come up against any 'wall'...an explorer can start at one point and keep on going until they come full circle and arrive back at their starting point.Explorer's have done this very thing in sailing around the world... and flying around the world... and trekking across the planet.asalaam,Caringheart


Good points.

First of all the 'edge' of the earth is unreachable. The reason is that at first we encounter two hundred feet tall ice which is flat for miles and miles. Then after this there are more land and mountains until we reach the 'edge'. The air gets thinner and thinner as we go towards the 'edge' as if we are going up in the sky.

I suggest you 'google' US Admiral Byrd who lead an expedition to the 'South Pole' and found that there are mountains that are not snow covered but the temperatures get get below 100 degrees. He said in a tv interview in the 1950's that there are coal, oil and other natural minerals to sustain the whole world. No wonder the US army do not let anybody near it.

By the there is not really a 'South Pole' but rather the whole ice sheet cover the entire planet. And the 'North Pole' is really the centre of the earth (the true magnetic North and not directional North).

With regard to people sailing and flying this is possible on a flat earth. If you look at a map of the flat earth they are going around the land masses not really circumnavigating the 'globe'. Same as flying, you are not really going around the globe non stop but you are just making land stops. Like island hopping but in a continent.
La Ilaha IllAllah
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2223242526 33>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.