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    Posted: 02 October 2005 at 1:13pm

for believing in a book? It doesn't make sense at all. Why would one believe in the teachings of the Islam because one reads about it in a book. Followers of other religions couldn't give me an answer that actually makes sense. Let's see what you guys can come up with.

What if I say that you wouldn't be Muslim if you weren't raised with that. Don't give me that crap of "but non muslims also become muslims!" because that's rare and it's even rarer in a civilised country if you understand what I mean.

I challenge you to argue that the Islamic teachings are any more valid than those of other religions.

If you cannot find any reason, your faith in Islam is pointless and there is no reason for you to continue practicing the teachings of Islam.



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I don't think Muslims are here to "sell you" their religion. Believe whatever you want.
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Good one Deus !

anyways coming 2 someguy's "challenge".....well if u think non-muslims becoming muslims is rare n it is even rare in a civilized country ....then let me tell ya a fact....

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world n that includes America.....now i dont think u will say that western world is uncivilized.....

chk out the facts urself from reliable sources.....n then comment something or "challenge" us, which is not even a challenge...

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Originally posted by Deus Deus wrote:

I don't think Muslims are here to "sell you" their religion. Believe whatever you want.

I see that you have nothing meaningful to say. Why do you come here if you can't answer my question? Why aren't you promoting your religion and tell me about some good arguments? Oh wait, you can't, because you ignorantly follow the teachings of Islam.

Same goes to all other people that simply come here, think about my question and then say something like Deus did, as an excuse for yourself.

Originally posted by firewall firewall wrote:

bismillahi rahmani raheem,
it's not just a book, it's THE book. a manual from the Creator, as my teacher once said. to best use life, i need a manual on how to best use life. life is too short for trial & errors. & tada!

How exactly do you know that it is THE book?



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Originally posted by ASHI ASHI wrote:

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world n that includes America.....

There's a simple answer to that; It's because many Muslim families produce loads of children compared to other groups of people in western countries, not because civilised people actually convert to Islam.



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Some guy has some point:Why should one follow what a book says?I mean, Alhamdillilah God has provided us with brains, why shouldnt we useour common sense and follow what we like?And I havnt finished having sympathy with some guy that some freak science book cover pop in my mind.

Hmmm, so aint science book full of facts?I mean, science tell us that one should not stand below a tree during rainy night, as they r bound to hit by lightning.But our common sense tell us that one should stand below a tree in rainy night as we will not get wet.So dont be believe in science book?

Wat bout maths:It contains formulae of addition, subtraction and all that required in daily life, so arnt we dependent on maths book?

Social science help us being civilised; arnt we dependent in it?Dont we believe in the teaching of social science?

Similarly,Muslim also believe in Quran.No not only muslims!!In fact all those who believe in science, maths and civics believe in Quran!!

So what actually is Quran?A textbook of science, maths and social?Well, there r loads of other thing also, which, someguy, as u rightly guessed i neither hv 'wisdom and intelligence' to put all of them in this thread.

However one eg. I can give is, u i believe r 18 yr old?Anyway im 17, and this is the time 'to just do it'.I mean, watching porn movies, taking in drugs and what not?But if u believe in Quran, u will never even think of these things.Law may give u fear of prison, but what else?While Quran tell us that there is life even after death, and thats an unending life.We will gt whatever we have reaped n this life.

See, we cant help u if u belive that we r going to give u nice and long lectures on Islam, and that u may keep commenting as soon as u see some loose connection.The muslim here, like sister firewall, will give u answer(and rightly so) that 'quran changed my life'.How?Why?When?etc etc i believe couldnt be answered easily.I t is just that it deeply influence loads of people, while if u read quran with some prejudices, u wont be influenced(maybe, never tried that!).

Now my question:Have u read Quran?If u hv not then read it; maybe u will also be 'deeply influenced' by this glorious book and then we will happily discontinue this thread.While if u hv, then u r free to question where u have problems.And we will be equally delighted to answer u.

Take care,

Dayem.

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