FMG

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

A madhhab is where we get our fiqh from, there are four in islam. You have the privelage of living in an age where people are ignorant of there own history and what this ummah has done to preserve the message of rasul allah [sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam].

The argument you present of it not being mentioned in quran and sunnah therefore this prooves impermisability lacks scholarship and understanding of Islam. You are not a scholar of any calibr to present this as an argument for something being haram or halal, no scholar would accept that as the sole reason for impermisability.

Unless you know why the ruling is there how on earth can you argue that the rulling is wrong?

First explain the precedure which you think is wrong, what its harmfull efffects are, what specificly prohibts it in the Quran and sunnah.

You should know this, It is impermisable for an unqualified person to go into the Quran and Sunnah and make up there own fatwah!


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rami said

"Bi ismilahir rahmanir raheem

Just pre-emting the next person to repeat what the last few posts have said.

I want someone to Define female circumcision and the procedure and clearly state what is the harm and why it is mutilation! "

i will take a step back and ask you because i am ignorant about this matter or maybe we are referring to different subject so let us first reach a common ground,

 1) tell me  please  what do you mean by female circumcision and what is the purpose behind it ? and did Prophet Mohamed (pbh) allowed

2) i have nothing about the scholars of Islam, but when using them as reference or explanation , tell us their studies and finding and what source you have gotten that information,

to just say madhab x say that and madhab z say this is really not helping us, and except for the holly Coran everything is subject to questioning, such as was this really said or not, did he or she really said it, in what context was it said, did he or she said something else negating the first thing said etc..

stating my point of view does not make me a scholar, nor does it portray me as making fatwa, but let me see brother rami how you will define female circumcision and what are your references that is the essence.

salam

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Now that bro Rami has brought in totally new perspective through Shafi Madhab, I shall refrain commenting about the topic till he provides his evidence from this Madhab as on what evidence this view is based, though the website clearly rejects all such evidences of ahadith by calling them un-reliable.

As far as bro begbie's "My assertion is based on the evidence provided by a leading scholar of islam who is promoting the practice so I neither exaggerate or provide false information." is concerned, I think he already admitted his mistake of misquoting the scholar. I have nothing else to say untill any new evidence is provided "for or against" the issue.

However, one thing may be realized that in a cultural traditions (not Islamic) of FGC (not FGM), it is the women who insists on continuing their cultural traditons more than their men. Hence, within the cultral tradition, this act is not considered un-human or abhorrent of any kind. Their mothers are infact the real torch bearer of this tradition to continue this activity to this time more than their fathers. However, now this cultrual tradition has taken the umbrella of religion, where religion is not the source but an excuse of continuity. 

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