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pauline35
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Well! It's very difficult to make others to believe your experiences as it comes from your own interpretation. Let's take it as something to share whether it was mind production or a phenomenon or an angel, it is still up to each individual to feel it when someone like me had experienced it.
Just to be more specific that "the thing" which I saw was not a good spirit. I felt it because that night I was not able sleep, I kept rolling on the bed, feeling stressed and worried out of no reasons. At one moment I walked to the window, withdrawn the curtain and looked down and something like a voice told me, "It would be nice to jump from there and the pleasant feeling of flying on the air. It's the paradise!". It was "ooops" in my mind and I thought of my mum, what's gonna happen to my mum if I am gone? Yacky...I said sh*t, am I out of my mind? I quickly opened the curtain and pushed the furniture to the window and I didn't sleep the whole night till the next morning. When I looked at my watch, it was a few minutes past midnight. Ever since then, I tried not to stay in a room that has last digit number 11. In fact, the second month after this extra-ordinary experience, I came back to the same hotel but I was allocated a different room. One of my colleague was given that room 2011. At first I almost forgotten about that experience but when I asked my colleague about his room number, I started to recall everything. However, I kept quite as I thought the same thing that if I would have told him about it, he would perceive me as "Crazy". The next thing I know was he changed his room in the middle of the night. I only found out the next day at the breakfast. He did not mention any phenomena experience but he changed the room again the next evening until our departure. I know when I tell this to someone who has not experience anything like that before, I will certainly get backfire. I don't believe in this encounterance but that was just an experience. Thanking you for your interest to find out more from my experience. Edited by pauline35 |
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pauline35
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Yes Dayem, you are so right that I overlooked the 20 indeed. That makes 2+0+1+1=13. Gosh! I never thought that it was 13 and not 11. The spirit I saw was just next to a full length mirror. I am very sure it was not a painting as there was no such portrait in a hotel room.
To all, sorry that I have to detract my comments in supporting John11 that number 11 is satanic. Edited by pauline35 |
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Dayem
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Dear pauline, Think like that, and u will leave poor Indians far behind in supersticion(or whatever the spelling).For one thing, I am sure that 'Ghost' or satan dont know how to add.And why add?2013....we can easily multiply it, Result=0.Or subtract it,Result=2-0-1-3=-2. These are all stupid experiment, dont go in depth. pauline35 wrote:
Something which I dont understand:How come sprits wear clothes? Sprits or Ghost does not exist. Humans and jinns live in this world, and this life is a test for both. Regards,Dayem. |
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pauline35
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Hi! Dayem,
What makes you think that jinns live in this world? Have you ever had any experience with the jinn? Do you mean that my last encounterance was a jinn and not a spirit? That's what I saw and I only saw once for that matter. I don't know really whether spirits or jinns as I have never seen a jinn before. If spirits don't wear clothes, then what about the jinns. Do jinns wear clothes? Pauline |
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Dayem
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Hello pauline, nice to hear so soon! I believe Qur'an to be the word of God.You may or my not believe it to be one. Source:http://muttaqun.com/jinn.html Jinn According to Quran and Sunnah
The Different Types
*Notice the similar sound between jinni and english's "genie". TV and other media have twisted the concept of jinn; however, it is interesting to note its origin is from Islam. "I Dream of Jeannie" is a TV show based around a Genie (jinni, plural of jinn). In this show, Jeannie, the genie, frequently was given a request and the requestor never quite got what was requested as she was always creating unintentional mischief. However we understand that the shaitan among the jinn antagonize humans, not that they are kind beings who accidentally mess up on occasion. Those who seek aid (such as asking for favors or making request) from the jinni will find deception and a twisted type of aid that doesn't really meet the requestor's original request, but that satisfies the shaytaanic jinn's desire for evil. **An Ifr�t (strong) from the jinns said: "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place (council). And verily, I am indeed strong, and trustworthy for such work." [The Noble Qur'an 27:39]
Abu Tha�labah al-Khushani said: �The Messenger of Allaah said: �The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.� [Shaykh al-Albaani said in al-Mishkaat (2/1206, no. 4148): al-Tahhaawi and Abu�l-Shaykh reported it with a saheeh isnaad]
The Origin of the Jinn
He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery. And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire.
The Noble Qur'an - Al-Hijr 15:26-42 26. And indeed, We created man from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. 27. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire. 28. And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "I am going to create a man (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. 29. "So, when I have fashioned him completely and breathed into him (Adam) the soul which I created for him, then fall (you) down prostrating yourselves unto him." 30. So, the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together. 31. Except Ibl�s (Satan), - he refused to be among the prostrators. 32. (All�h) said: "O Ibl�s (Satan)! What is your reason for not being among the prostrators?" 33. [Ibl�s (Satan)] said: "I am not the one to prostrate myself to a human being, whom You created from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud." 34. (All�h) said: "Then, get out from here, for verily, you are Raj�m (an outcast or a cursed one)." [Tafs�r At-Tabar�] 35. "And verily, the curse shall be upon you till the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)." 36. [Ibl�s (Satan)] said: "O my Lord! Give me then respite till the Day they (the dead) will be resurrected." 37. All�h said: "Then, verily, you are of those reprieved, 38. "Till the Day of the time appointed." 39. [Ibl�s (Satan)] said: "O my Lord! Because you misled me, I shall indeed adorn the path of error for them (mankind) on the earth, and I shall mislead them all. 40. "Except Your chosen, (guided) slaves among them." 41. (All�h) said: "This is the Way which will lead straight to Me." 42. "Certainly, you shall have no authority over My slaves, except those who follow you of the Gh�w�n (Mushrik�n and those who go astray, criminals, polytheists, and evil-doers, etc.).
Solomon's Experience with the Jinn
The Noble Qur'an - Saad 38:35-39 36. So, We subjected to him the wind, it blew gently to his order whithersoever he willed, 37. And also the Shay�tin (devils) from the jinns (including) every kind of builder and diver, 38. And also others bound in fetters. 39. [Saying of All�h to Sulaim�n (Solomon)]: "This is Our gift, so spend you or withhold, no account will be asked."
The Noble Qur'an - Saba' 34:12-14 12. And to Solomon (We subjected) the wind, its morning (stride from sunrise till midnoon) was a month's (journey), and its afternoon (stride from the midday decline of the sun to sunset) was a month's (journey i.e. in one day he could travel two months' journey). And We caused a fount of (molten) brass to flow for him, and there were jinns that worked in front of him, by the Leave of his Lord, and whosoever of them turned aside from Our Command, We shall cause him to taste of the torment of the blazing Fire. 13. They worked for him what he desired, (making) high rooms, images, basins as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places). "Work you, O family of D�wud (David), with thanks!" But few of My slaves are grateful. 14. Then when We decreed death for him [Sulaim�n (Solomon)], nothing informed them (jinns) of his death except a little worm of the earth, which kept (slowly) gnawing away at his stick, so when he fell down, the jinns saw clearly that if they had known the unseen, they would not have stayed in the humiliating torment.
17. And there were gathered before Sulaim�n (Solomon) his hosts of jinns and men, and birds, and they all were set in battle order (marching forwards). 18. Till, when they came to the valley of the ants, one of the ants said: "O ants! Enter your dwellings, lest Sulaim�n (Solomon) and his hosts crush you, while they perceive not." 19. So he [Sulaim�n (Solomon)] smiled, amused at her speech[] and said: "My Lord! Inspire and bestow upon me the power and ability that I may be grateful for Your Favours which You have bestowed on me and on my parents, and that I may do righteous good deeds that will please You, and admit me by Your Mercy among Your righteous slaves."
Every human has a partner Jinn
Distancing Oneself
Hadith - Ahmad, an-Nasa'i, Dawud, al-Hakim and al-Baihaqi
More About the Jinn
Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 4:533, Narrated Jabi bin 'Abdullah The Prophet said, "Cover your utensils and tie your water skins, and close your doors and keep your children close to you at night, as the Jinns spread out at such time and snatch things away. When you go to bed, put out your lights, for the mischief-doer (i.e. the rat) may drag away the wick of the candle and burn the dwellers of the house." Ata said, "The devils." (instead of the Jinns). Hadith - Sunan of Abu Dawood, Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri Hadith - Al-Muwatta 54.33 Hadith - Muwatta, 49.21 Hadith - Tirmidhi #350 The Noble Qur'an - Ar-Rahmaan 55:56 Hadith - Abu Dawood 1046, Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib Ali said on the pulpit in the mosque of Kufah: When Friday comes, the devils go to the markets with their flags, and involve people in their needs and prevent them from the Friday prayer. ...
Allah will fill Hell with jinns and men all together
The Noble Qur'an - As-Saaffaat 37:158 The Noble Qur'an - Huud 11:119 The Noble Qur'an - Al-An'aam 6:130, 131 This is because your Lord would not destroy the (populations of) towns for their wrongdoing (i.e. associating others in worship along with All�h) while their people were unaware (so the Messengers were sent). The Noble Qur'an - Al-A'raaf 7:179
Fortune-tellers/Soothsayers
Muslim Jinn
Allah's Messenger came out to his companions and recited Surah ar-Rahman (55) from the beginning to the end, but they remained silent. Thereupon he said: I recited this before the Jinn on the night of Jinn, and their response was better than that of yours. When I came to these words: `Then which of the favours of your Lord do you deny?' They said: Our Lord, there is nothing that we deny of Thy favour; to Thee is praise due.
Shaytaan
The Noble Qur'an - Faatir 35:6 The Noble Qur'an - Az-Zukhruf 43:62
The Noble Qur'an - Az-Zukhruf 43:62
The jinn's power is to Whisper/Deceive
1. Say: "I seek refuge with (All�h) the Lord of mankind, 2. "The King of mankind, 3. "The Il�h (God) of mankind, 4. "From the evil of the whisperer (devil who whispers evil in the hearts of men) who withdraws (from his whispering in one's heart after one remembers All�h), 5. "Who whispers in the breasts of mankind, 6. "Of jinns and men." The Noble Qur'an - Al-An'aam 6:128 The Noble Qur'an - Al-'Anaam 6:112 The Noble Qur'an - An-Nahl 16:99-100 His power is only over those who obey and follow him (Satan), and those who join partners with Him (All�h) [i.e. those who are Mushrik�n - polytheists - see Verse 6:121]. The Noble Qur'an - Ibrahiim 14:22 The Noble Qur'an - Al-Israa' 17:61-65 [Ibl�s (Satan)] said: "See? This one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite (keep me alive) to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring (by sending them astray) all but a few!" (All�h) said: "Go, and whosoever of them follows you, surely! Hell will be the recompense of you (all) an ample recompense. "And Istafziz [literally means: befool them gradually] those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for All�h's disobedience), make assaults on them with your cavalry and your infantry, mutually share with them wealth and children (by tempting them to earn money by illegal ways usury, etc., or by committing illegal sexual intercourse, etc.), and make promises to them." But Satan promises them nothing but deceit. "Verily! My slaves (i.e the true believers of Isl�mic Monotheism), you have no authority over them. And All-Sufficient is your Lord as a Guardian." Supplication for one afflicted by whisperings in prayer or recitation... Hadith - Sahih Muslim 5463, Narrated Uthman ibn Abul'As, r.a. * this is a dry spit in the air
Seeking refuge IN the Jinn
7. 'And they thought as you thought, that All�h will not send any Messenger (to mankind or jinns).
101. He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything. 102. Such is All�h, your Lord! L� il�ha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Creator of all things. So worship Him (Alone), and He is the Wak�l (Trustee, Disposer of affairs, Guardian, etc.) over all things. The Noble Qur'an - Al-An'aam 6:128
Seeking refuge FROM the Evil Jinn
The Noble Qur'an - Fussilat 41:36
Verily, those who are Al-Muttaq�n (the pious - see V.2:2), when an evil thought comes to them from Shait�n (Satan), they remember (All�h), and (indeed) they then see (aright). The Noble Qur'an - Ghaafir 40:56 The Noble Qur'an - An-Nahl 16:98 Hadith - Al-Muwatta 51.10 Audhu bi wajhi'llahi' l-karim wa bi kalimati'llahi't-tammati. Allati la yujawazu hunna barra wa la fajir, min sharri ma yanzil min as-sama, wa sharri ma yaruju fiha, wa sham ma dhara' fi'l-ard, wa sharri ma yakhruju minha, wa min fitani'l-layli wa'n-nahar, wa min tawariqi'l-layli wa'n-nahar illa tariqan yatruq bikhayr ya Rahman!
Hadith - Al-Tirmidhi 358, Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib [Bismillahi] Allahumma inna 'audhu bika minal khubthi wal khabaa'ith. [By the Name of Allah]. Oh Allah, I seek protection in You from unclean spirits, male and female. [Abu Dawud 4/264, Ahmad 2/389]
Hadith - Tirmidhi #2173, Narrated Jubayr ibn Nufayr [Darimi transmitted it in mursal form]. Ibn Taimiya, Majmu, vol. 19, p. 55 Hadith - Tirmidhi #2145, Narrated An-Nu'man ibn Bashir
The Noble Qur'an - Al-Baqarah 2:286
Hadith - Al-Tirmidhi 1019, Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri Hadith - Al-Tirmidhi 4563, Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri
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Hi, I suggest you concentrate more on proving that the Qur'an is from God and that Mohammad (peace be upon him) is His last prophet. Once you are convinced, everything will be easy to accept. cheers, deen
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Dayem
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Ur rite of course....but one must do whatever he is asked for..or something..
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Okay, I got it, thanks Dayem. It's very informative. It was true when I heard a feminine whisper from my left, I thought I was talking to myself. During that moment, I really don't know what to do, what to pray and how to pray. Thanks again for your kind efforts.
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