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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rudy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2005 at 8:55am
you misspelled ''favor''.

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Originally posted by Dayem Dayem wrote:

Hey Joker, whats the correct method?U know it or not?No?Kindly keep your big mouth shut and do us all a favour.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DavidC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2005 at 1:48pm
I have forgotten the exact citation, but in Bukahari there is an incident
where Muhummad confronts someone preaching about Allah and tells him
to stop and let people get on with life.

It's comforting to know even Muhummad didn't approve of fanatics.
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you misspelled ''favor''.

Thats the american English dear.India was occupied by the Britishers, so we use there spelling.For eg, colour, and not color.

Similarly, favour, not favor.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rudy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2005 at 6:37am
I didn't know that, nor did I knew that you were indian either.

Originally posted by Dayem Dayem wrote:

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you misspelled ''favor''.

Thats the american English dear.India was occupied by the Britishers, so we use there spelling.For eg, colour, and not color.

Similarly, favour, not favor.

Regards, Dayem

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dayem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2005 at 9:54am
And that im 17 yr old?Male?Hahah, check my profile.
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Dear All,

As a non muslim, I would love to ask something very disturbing after I discuss with other moslems about apostasy. He mentioned that apostates will have death penalty.

Is it true that apostates from Islam will have death penalty?

Thanks for clarifying.

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Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by DeExupery DeExupery wrote:

Dear All,

As a non muslim, I would love to ask something very disturbing after I discuss with other moslems about apostasy. He mentioned that apostates will have death penalty.

Is it true that apostates from Islam will have death penalty?

That's a tough question, and now its time for a muslim to run away ...

If I give you a very short answer, it is a Yes. However it is not so simple.

Broadly speaking, an apostate needs to declare himself as one for the penalty to be imposed. Secondly, such a punishment can be given only in a land which upholds the islamic sharia as its law, not in a secular democratic country. 

Further, the apostates are given a chance to recant and return ... it is a very technical thing, and punishments of hudud in Islam according to fiqh are to be imposed under most dire circumstances only - it is the responsibility of those imposing the punishment to find clauses of requittal.

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Originally posted by Nausheen Nausheen wrote:

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by DeExupery DeExupery wrote:

Dear All,

As a non muslim, I would love to ask something very disturbing after I discuss with other moslems about apostasy. He mentioned that apostates will have death penalty.

Is it true that apostates from Islam will have death penalty?

That's a tough question, and now its time for a muslim to run away ...

If I give you a very short answer, it is a Yes. However it is not so simple.

Broadly speaking, an apostate needs to declare himself as one for the penalty to be imposed. Secondly, such a punishment can be given only in a land which upholds the islamic sharia as its law, not in a secular democratic country. 

Further, the apostates are given a chance to recant and return ... it is a very technical thing, and punishments of hudud in Islam according to fiqh are to be imposed under most dire circumstances only - it is the responsibility of those imposing the punishment to find clauses of requittal.

Peace,

Nausheen

It comes from a time when spies would claim to have accepted Islam, infilitrate the community at Medina, then once they gathered information would run back to their tribe. In its original context it was no different than the laws against treason the United States currently has.

Also, Muhammad Salallahu alaihi wassalam gave orders that, in battle, if an enemy pronounced the shahada the Muslims were forbidden to kill him. Once this was learned by the pagans, they would regularly shout the shahada in battle when threatened with death. Afterwards they would renounce it. In this situation the rule concerning apostasy was not about someone in good conscience changing faiths, but rather about enemy combatants who lied about their adoption of Islam to avoid death in battle.



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