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Hi all,

I think I have gotten my questions answered, after careful consideration, I can only interpret Mockba's (for me) incomprehendable one-liners (which he refuse to explain) as a polite way to say please go away. I see no reason not to follow his wishes. This was said without any hostility and as a personal remark to Mockba.

I realize I am starting to repeat myself valued friend.

Thank you very much for the participation in this thread and for wellcoming me so gently to the forum. I will surely be back if I have additional questions.

I would like to say that I have learned here (and as result of this conflict, and forum)  that I have to admire Muslims for their morale stature.

Maybe this conflict can result in Muslims respecting Denmark and Europe for having the same moral stature for freedom of speech/free press. That right belongs to the people and nobody else. But it is no right to use for insults.

Regardless of what was said, the call is clear: Please stop insulting Muslims, go on with what you think is your religion but do not step into our holy shrines with your dirty boots wondering what is it you've done wrong...

As far as I am concerned I have made posts that clearly express that I am in full agreement what you say above. 

Your post also makes it very clear to me, that you lack interest in what else I have to say. Since you feel you have to point this out.

Thank you again for your answer to my initial question.

Bismillah,

Wrangle, since you have the Danish perspective, we would like your continued input. Especially since you are trying so hard to be respectful.  

 When I, as a Muslim woman revert (reborn, reguided...) read Mockba's comments, I understand them right away.  So when you say that you don't see the relevance of this or comment that he has made, this is because of a cultural gap between the Muslim perspective and your perspective.  It is worth it for you to try and figure out this disparity.

Also, I understand your fears as well that you stated.  I felt afraid too when I heard about this.  My kids and me are discriminated against every day.  We live in a country that mostly hates Muslims and foreigners, now the worst to be is Arab or Pak.

Now, many people who are not bigots and racists will protest and say this isn't so.  Sadly, the enlightened are in the minority in America.  So please, don't change; we need you!

The pressures and difficulties of being Muslim in this world are tremendous.  Hatred and bigotry effect my family every day of our lives.  Really, Wrangle, you must struggle to understand this issue because it is the center of so much conflict.

Al-Hamudulilah, Praise God!  There is no faith greater or more beautiful than Islaam.  Would that I could go back to my easier life before Allah, SWT, God the Most Glorious and High, renewed my Islaam and faith in Him.  But Allah has enlightened me, and Al-Hamdulilah, this will not change.

David, Did you miss the statement put out by American Muslim Mosques belittling the killing of innocent people by Bush and by Muslims???  Have you read the posts by the Muslims on this board against the killing of innocent lives???  As much as you try, you also need to walk a mile in our shoes if you  depict it as "just a cartoon".

With these kind words I see no other option then to stick around. At least I can tell a bit about what is happening in Denmark.

I read in the papers that the Danish embassy in Damaskus is been stormed and set on fire. A demonstration got out of hand. The papers also say that part of the reason for the demonstration, was rumours of Quran burning in Denmark. I have seen information about Quran burning in denmark, in some middle east news media on the Web.

This has not taken place. I have not heard about any burning and police sources denies any knowledge of this as well.

Here the full story, on what I think is the background for these rumours.

Danish media reported a couple of 4-5 days ago, that some right wing Danish individuals where trying to organize a demonstration in Denmark. Using SMS. Purpose would be burn a copy of the Quran and to encourage a boycott of Muslim owned shops in Denmark. Police immediately warned the orginazors, that any attempt to burn the Quran, would result in immediate arrest. Deliberate blasphemi is a criminal act according to Danish law.

Here is what happened at the day of the demonstration. First you need to understand that there lives around 2.500.000 people with easy and quick access to Copehagen.

Only 75 demonstrators showed up (I admit this was 75 too many). Nobody had brought the Quran. One had a sign saying "We are sorry". There where lots of police at the place. All 75 immediately went home again. The demonstration never started.

As for boycott of Muslim owned shops I frankly can't see this happening. Many local shops (grocheries, tobacco-shops, small reitail shops, buchers, ...) are owned and operated by Muslims. They are an integral part of daily Danish life. They are run by people you meet on a daily basis. A boycott of them is un-imaginable.

As for the storming, I don't see it as such as a big deal. Nobody was hurt. Demonstrations can get out of hand. It is the responability of the Syrian authoroties to ensure the security of an foreign embassy.

Standard diplomatic practise will kick in now. The Danish goverment will protest to the Syrian goverment, the Syrian goverment will tighten security on the embassy and that should be the end of that.

No Quran has been burnt in Denmark. If this happens will the responsible people be arrested, and they will also be heavily comdemned by all Danes. Including me.