Free Will

Tim Evans wrote: To all on this thread. Why is it that people with a religious 'faith' devoid of proof by there own admission, insist on explaining their 'faith 'by use of earthy historical, material examples? If 'faith' in a god is the absolute determinant of all things, why bother with arguing about proofs? 'Faith' should be able to provide the force.

Why are you full of contradiction?  Do you enjoy playing one off against the other?  You should be ashamed.

To make the record straight and clear, Sis herjihad, kindly note that the initial topic as well as topic starter (research3) has nothing to do with existence/non existance of God, that some people are asking proof of. I am simply trying to explain the concept of "free will" to those who only understand the "materialistic" language through their own channel. Its strange that they ask me about the proof of spiritual realms to which they have no familiarity. Yet they don't offer any other alternative mechanism, other than faith, to explain the unique differnces between humans and animals. Isn't it strange?

O my dear bro Tim, why are you so offended with my posts? Are these so hard on you? Is there any discussion on this whole forum, where your anger is not being reflected, on one member or the other? So, is it time for me to get a share from you? I never intended that. Even after your offensive "shut up" call, I happily decided to quit, but certain posts later including the one from your "stab at the back" where I was being directly/indirectly addressed, I couldn't let their replies unanswered. Is this a big thing to come back to, simply to reply back, through most logical way, that I can think of, without the iota of disrespectful. Do you also want me to reply you back in the same tone when you further say "You abused that offer in the most un-gracious manner. You now attempt to restart the debate on your own terms. ".

 However, I shall not attempt to pay you back in the same tone, just to let every one distinguish, from our conversation, the difference between the "wilds" and the "Civilized". Indeed, 'logical discussion' is one thing that can't take place among the "wilds".

Bismillah,

We have free will, yet Allah, The Most Glorious, the Most Knowledgeable, knows everything that has or will happen.  We need to apply this idea to our lives by making wise choices because we as individuals are responsible for everything we choose or choose not to do.  Of course, this easily applies to atheists as well.  Everyone wants to take responsibility for her own actions, right?

Faith and free will interact freely.  The faithful attempt to follow Allah's guidance making wise choices along the way.  We know that even if this world is harsh, our Bounitful Lord is The Most Forgiving and Merciful and that we need strive towards pleasing Allah in order to achieve success in this world and in heaven.

Faith is a choice.  You don't have to have faith, but you still have free will.  We who choose to have faith have chosen for a myriad of reasons and have been guided to that by a myriad of means by Allah's Mercy.  Faith is a huge topic, so maybe if anyone is interested in why each of has faith in Allah, and in heaven, he should post a topic requesting our Faith based stories.

For those of us with Faith, Free will is the determining mechanism for it's implementation.  Faith alone is satisfying, but what shall it do left alone as an idea?  We put action into our faith through our faith with every action we take when our faith sincerely guides us.