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    Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:11pm

Obviously this being a site which promotes Islam I would assume our non-muslim guests are at least acquainted with some knowledge on Islam so I won't go into detail. But I'd like for us to focus on the world's largest faith: Christianity. Being a former Christian myself I can share some experiences of my past which actually helped me develope my belief as a Muslim. I felt in my past I had a different theological background even as I was growing up. Although I went to church, very often I fell asleep only to be awake when the pastor would jump up and down yelling "PRAISE JESUS!"

But like most religions being a Baptist Christian was not only a faith, but a congregation which most African-Americans belong to. It was a faith that not only praised Jesus, but also was a faith which united people of color under a common goal, unity in faith. The spiritual message appealed to me for a while, but as I grew older and more into intellectual things I began to evolve into a different mindset which allowe dme to constructively criticize my own faith.

Unlike most of the experiences I've read here the transition to Islam was quite easy actually because my family accepted me regardless. But perhaps one thing I retain from once being a Christian is the love I have for Christians. Some  Christians are perhaps some of the most altruistic people that I've ever met. A lot of them are motivated by the spiritual unity in God and a lot of them, much like Muslims do things in order to please God. Although my philosophies on acting upon altruism is different, I am much appreciative of the many Christians whom I've discussed with.

Even through proseltyzing many Christians intentions are actually good even in the illusion that they believe that their tenents will save humanity. Call it what you want, but even in that illusion alone it is important to see the goodness in the act. The fact that many strangers on the street who preach the gospel try so hard to 'save the souls' is amazing. However you do have those who are of the minority who do the exat same action but do it in a manner of control or what we would call religious fundamentalist.

Some Muslims believe most Christians commit shirk. In actuality the message in Christianity is one and the same as in Islam. The love of God. Jesus in the Bible reiterates an old prayer that Jews have been saying even today:

Hear O' Israel!

The Lord your God is One,

Love the Lord with all your heart and soul and with your mind!

Ameen...

Jesus in the Bible said that, that is greatest command of all, greater than any command sent by God.Christians iun the time of Jesus followed such a law and some Christians of today still follow such a law. Muslims of today still follow that 2,500 year-old law which was sent to Muhammad which is still followed today. I would hope Muslims and Christians reflect on that law and the spiritual binding it has between Muslims and Christians.

Our differences may be apparent, but just like all other differences we understand and acknowledge with clarity that these differences along are what distinguishes our faith and how we practice, but the most important thing which can bridge this gap is the understanding that there is only One GOD. We believe in this One GOD that, GOD is the supreme and the ultimate judge. We also believe that this Artisan is the ruler over the universe and that nothing exceeds GOD or is compared to GOD. I would hope under this alone we can be unified.

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Excellant post bro Israfil "We believe in this One GOD that, GOD is the supreme and the ultimate judge. We also believe that this Artisan is the ruler over the universe and that nothing exceeds GOD or is compared to GOD. I would hope under this alone we can be unified."

I must say Amen!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peacemaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2006 at 2:15am

Assalamu Alaikum!

I would just like to add here that if you study any religion even today ( when most of the holy books have been corrupted ), there are still some resources left that teach us that there is only one God.

Apply logic here. There can be only one Creator. It is not possible that one creator created a Christian and then another Creator created a Muslim.

Jazak Allah Khair.

Peace

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Israfil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2006 at 5:02pm

Ameen Brother AhmadJoyia!

Brother/Sister Peacemaker, forgive me if I do not know your gender and may call you on or the other by mistake! I believe when we read the Biblical text even the text of the Torah it is hard to deny most of what is said in the Torah especially, and even some parts of the New Testament. Although we do not except the latter as the Gospels of Jesus we can appreciate some of its value nonetheless because it stiull validates monotheism.

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I must say�Amen!



Amen indeed! I think every Christian can agree with this.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peacemaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:16am

Assalamu Alaikum!

"Brother/Sister Peacemaker, forgive me if I do not know your gender and may call you on or the other by mistake! I believe when we read the Biblical text even the text of the Torah it is hard to deny most of what is said in the Torah especially, and even some parts of the New Testament. Although we do not except the latter as the Gospels of Jesus we can appreciate some of its value nonetheless because it stiull validates monotheism".

Brother Israfil, I am brother. Jazak Allah Khair

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It appears to me that saying that Islam is a religion of Peace is similar to saying that a Lion will not attack if he is not hungry. The many countries of the Middle east which were Christian and Jewish to begin with, became Islamic by reason of warfare. When the Muslim horde was victorious, the inhabitants were given three choices i.e. Die, become Muslims, or admit to inferiority and pay the monthly tax. Many accepted Islam in order to save their lives, and Muhammed foungt some terrible battles, and massacred many members of these tribes when they tried to change back. Also, paying the tax did not work well either. There are NO Christians left in Arabia, and in the other couhtries where Sharia'h is in place, thier lives are one of misery, their daughters are targets as concubines and slaves, and they have NO legal recourse. Who is trying to fool whom, here?

Check my website at http://stmichaelwarrior.com .

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Two whole posts in three months and this is the best you can come up
with?

Please, take one of your unenlightened topics and start a new thread so
people can respond intelligently.

Your image of St. Michael slaying Satan is a curious choice. Why did you
choose this icon of Christian violence to criticize Islamic violence?

I would also advise not calling people foolish, as Jesus taught us that
calling people fools is a damnable sin - akin to murder!:

Matthew 5   21"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago,
'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.'
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject
to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable
to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the
fire of hell.
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