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And (remember) when We said unto the angels:
Fall prostrate before Adam, and they fell prostrate, all save Iblis.
He was of the jinn, so he rebelled against his Lord's command.
Will ye choose him and his seed for your protecting friends
instead of Me, when they are an enemy unto you ?
Calamitous is the exchange for evil-doers. (18:50)
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Lsof you've written: "Because for me this person or persons is not the Allah, Unseen, Lord as someone use another words to talk about himsef."

So who is it? You seem to surpass all mankind in your understanding?
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We

The royal we (Pluralis Majestatis) is the first-person plural pronoun when
used by an important personage to refer to himself or herself. Its best
known usage is by a monarch such as a king, queen, or pope. It is also
used in certain formal contexts by bishops and university rectors.
In the public situations in which it is used, the monarch or other dignitary
is typically speaking, not in his own proper person, but as leader of a
nation or institution. Nevertheless, the habit of referring to leaders in the
plural has influenced the grammar of several languages, in which plural
forms tend to be perceived as deferential and more polite than singular
forms. This grammatical feature is called a T-V distinction.
Popes used the we as part of their formal speech up until recent times.
John Paul I was the first to dispense with this practice, instead using the
singular I. John Paul II continued to use the singular.
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Hello again,

Originally posted by DavidC DavidC wrote:

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We[/QUOTE]

This is explanation for english language as the article begin:

We is the nominative case of the first-person plural pronoun in English.

I'm looking for the Arabic language explanation.

[QUOTE=Maryga]You seem to surpass all mankind in your understanding?

I found translation of The Cow:

<Haqq>  The Meaning of The Noble Qur'an. Surah:2.Al-Baqarah.
<Haqq>  3. Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and spend out of what we have provided for them [i.e. give Zakat, spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, etc., and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah's Cause - Jihad, etc.].
<Haqq>  Translated by Dr. MT Al-Hilali & Dr. MM Khan. V6.3
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***This is a WARNING, if you are going to refer to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) you are to do it with respect or be banned.  It's that simple.  You don't have to agree with him or Islam, but you will be respectful in writing his name correctly or I will ban you.***

I don't understand what is the problem (pbuh?), if so what does it mean?

I don't want to share your belifs, i just wanted to have some answers, as for me is thin line beetwen respect and agreeing
and i don't want to praise Muhammad but also i'm trying not to offend you.

Greetings lsof
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