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Meng no offense but you have yet to demonstrate the logic behind the trinity and as I had said in my original post without using doctrine explain and prove the trinity's logic. Why follow something if you cannot show demonstrative proofs?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Meng Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 1:33pm

First of all, I believe that the mystery of the Godhead is beyond human logic.....just as many concepts are beyond human logic.

Please answer this, what "demonstrative proofs" do you have of Islam.  You simply accept it as a matter of faith, right?

As a Christian, I believe God's Word is contained in the Old and New Testaments.  They teach that there is One God - and they also call the Father God, the Son God and the Holy Spirit God.

Thus we define God as One, who manifests as the Person of the Father, the Person of the Son and the Person of the Holy Spirit. Yet, not three gods (as Mormonism teaches), but One God.

Let me give you this example from chemistry.  If you place H2o in a test tube and subject it to certain laboratory environments, the water in the test tube will be liquid, ice and vapor, all simultaneously.  If water, the simples of compounds, can be three simultaneously, while still remaining one substance - why don't you believe that God can do the same?

 

 

 

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LOL typical Christian answer
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What proof do I have?

Allah Says in the Qur'an Qul'hu Allahu AHAD, Allahu Samad Lam yalid Wa' Lam Yulad Wa' Lam Yakulahu Kufuwan Ahad

Ask one of the Muslims what this means.....

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So, I guess you have no reply other than something in Arabic.  What if I respond to you in Danish - would you like that?  And then told you to go talk to a Dane.

You need to debate rationally.

 

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Originally posted by Meng Meng wrote:

So, I guess you have no reply other than something in Arabic.� What if I respond to you in Danish - would you like that?� And then told you to go talk to a Dane.


You need to debate rationally.




you need to debate rationally, how can God act like H2O (water) ?


is it also possible that we can drink God? and cease his existance?




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Aren't you familiar with the concept of analogies, ak?

The question is, if a simple compound such as H2o can be triune in nature, why cannot an omnipotent God?

 

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Originally posted by Meng Meng wrote:

Aren't you familiar with the concept of analogies, ak?


The question is, if a simple compound such as H2o can be triune in nature, why cannot an omnipotent God?



then why cant you accept the same analogy? maybe you change the analogies where you see them supporting your point ?

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