Deuteronomy 18:15 Jesus Prediction???

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What Jesus said of the law.
Matthew 5
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

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believer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 08 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1397	Post Options Post Reply Quote believer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2008 at 7:42pm
	What Jesus said of the law. Matthew 5 17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
	John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

believer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 08 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1397	Post Options Post Reply Quote believer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2008 at 7:37pm
	The commandments can be considered law. Jesus brought this one: John 13 34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
	John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

buddyman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 June 2007 Status: Offline Points: 295	Post Options Post Reply Quote buddyman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 August 2007 at 3:31pm
	[QUOTE=jalillah] *The Lord They God....will raise Unto Thee a Prophet (pbuh) from the Midst of Thee, of They Brethren,like Unto me; Unto Him Ye shall Harken...deuteronomy 18:15* ======== Admin: Please read guidelines: 3. Use of upper case and bold (font) is not permissible for the whole of the message body, however it may be used to add emphasis to words or phrases contained within your message. http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=30 Deutoronomy 18:15 actually read: 15"^(A)The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him. Now lets see this in context: adding verse 16 15"^(B)The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him. 16"This is ^(C)according to all that you asked of the LORD your God in Horeb on the day of the assembly, saying, 'Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, let me not see this great fire anymore, or I will die.' This is what I was discussing with Andalus- When Moses gave them the commandments (or as Jews call them statutes) they couldn't bare to hear the voice of God so they asked God to send them a prophet to speak to them instead...

minuteman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1642	Post Options Post Reply Quote minuteman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 July 2007 at 5:29am
	Katherine has tried to prove thatThe brethren are the Jews. But if we read the complete verse 18:18, we see that Jesus does not match Moses at all. Moses was a commander of his followers. Jesus never commanded any one. Moses had brought a law for the people. Jesus never brought any new law. But his followers rather got rid of the law of Moses, calling it a curse. This last point is very serious against Jesus, i.e. doing away with the law of Moses. Then how could Jesus be the like of Moses a.s.??? Cannot be. There are many other flaws. I would like to read (see) any one verse from the Bible NT, from the four gospels stating that Jesus was the like of Moses. I hope none can be shown. But I can clearly show a verse of the Quran which states that "Allah has sent to you (O people) the prophet exactly as he sent a prophet to Pharoah...". Then if you take into account the status of Moses a.s. and Jesus a.s. they do not match. Moses was a prophet only. Jesus was not a prophet only. He was a god too. Moses was sinful (as per church theory). Jesus was not sinful. Moses was successful. Jesus was not successful in his native land. Moses overcame his enemies. Jesus did not. Please just do not go to the words brethren only. See the other things too. Jesus never said anything in the name of the Lord. But every (except one) chapter of the Quran opens with the words " In the name of Allah, the Beneficient, the Merciful". Also, please see verses 19 and 20. It says that if any one will not listen and obey THAT PROPHET, then I shall take account of him, meaning I shall require of him. DiD God take any account of the enemies of Jesus??? No. Jesus disappeared suddenly and so did his disciples, some of them hid themselves and suffered for 300 years. Next is the verse 18:20. It is very clear against Jesus. God says that any prophet who will speak something that God had not commanded it to him then that propht will be killed. Now according to the christian friends Jesus died on the cross. Even though he may have suffered on the cross and died as a result of that only for one day, it means that he was killed on the cross. That is the genearl belief of the christians (Not the Muslims). Therefore he was killed on the cross. So Jesus cannot be that prophet of God as per Deut 18:20. Means that he will be a false prophet. Edited by minuteman

Arab Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Status: Offline Points: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arab Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 January 2007 at 12:21am
	No this is about prohet Mohammed. Arabs are the brethren of Jews. Also the verse later on says "and I shall put my words in his mouth" this is the Quran which was a verbal revelation.

ak_m_f Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3272	Post Options Post Reply Quote ak_m_f Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 April 2006 at 4:24pm
	lol.... 3 in a row banned ... what a coincidence

Athanasius Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 13 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote Athanasius Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 April 2006 at 2:37pm
	Katherine is quite right here. The Messiah was to come from the brethren of Moses, who were the Jews - not Muslims, of course. This is a reference to the One Who came from the Jews, the Seed of Abraham, the seed mentioned in Genesis 3:15 who tampled on Satan's head: Jesus Christ
	Freedom is a gift from God - to deny men freedom is to worship evil.

Katherine Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 66	Post Options Post Reply Quote Katherine Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 April 2006 at 7:39am
	Yes, Deut 18 is referring to the Messiah, eventually. A Jew would tell you that Deut. 18 speaks of all prophets who came after Moses, and that these prophets were Jewish and they would tell you that it couldn't possibly be Muhammad who was not a Jew. Brethern could refer to any tribe of Israel. Ishmael's group were really step-brethern. "The Levitical priests, that is, all the tribe of Levi, shall have no portion or inheritance with Israel ... they shall have no inheritance among their brethren". Deuteronomy 18.1-2. Therefore the only logical interpretation of Deuteronomy 18.18 can be: "I will raise up for them (that is, the tribe of Levi) a prophet like you from among their brethren (that is, one of the other tribes of Israel)". Indeed throughout the Old Testament we often find the expression "their brethren" meaning the remaining tribes of Israel as distinct from the tribe specifically referred to. Look at this verse as an example: But the children of Benjamin would not listen to the voice of their brethren, the children of Israel. Judges 20.13 Here "their brethren" is specifically stated to be the other tribes of Israel as distinct from the tribe of Benjamin. In Deuteronomy 18.18, therefore, "their brethren" clearly means the brethren in Israel of the tribe of Levi. Again in Numbers 8.26 the tribe of Levi is commanded to minister to "their brethren", that is, the remaining tribes of Israel. In 2 Kings 24.12 the tribe of Judah is distinguished from "their brethren", once again the remaining tribes of Israel. (Further scriptures proving the point are Judges 21.22, 2 Samuel 2.26, 2 Kings 23.9, 1 Chronicles 12.32, 2 Chronicles 28.15, Nehemiah 5.1 and others). In Deuteronomy 17.15 we read that Moses on one occasion said to the Israelites "One from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother". Only an Israelite could be appointed king of Israel - "one from among your brethren" - no foreigner, be he Ishmaelite, Edomite or whoever he may be, could be made King of Israel because he was not one of "their brethren", that is, a member of one of the tribes of Israel. Since all of the tribes of Israel are called "brethern" a Muslim would have to come up with a reason why they were excluded, based on facts. Further than this, the promise came through Isaac and not Ishmael. In addition the New Testament identifies the prophet like Moses as Jesus Christ. Edited by Katherine

Deuteronomy 18:15 Jesus Prediction???

What Jesus said of the law.

Matthew 5

The commandments can be considered law. Jesus brought this one:

John 13