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fredifreeloader
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im glad you picked that up ahmad, the choice of words was deliberate. you need to think about the differences in what the two systems are proposing. i do not believe they can be compared, they can only be judged with reference to their own aims and objectives. any comment on the hadithic reference i gave would be welcome
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for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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Angela
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You are correct p�scha is actually Greek for Passover. The Eastern Orthodox Church uses it as Easter. Its interesting they use it for Brothel in Germany. I wonder what the word means IN GERMAN. |
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AhmadJoyia
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Well, What's your point about hadithic reference. I couldn't get it? On what aspect of it do you want me to comment, though I am simply not qualified to explain the ahadith literature in isolation? This is simply because of its peculier nature. Nevertheless, here is the referred hadith: Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139:
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AhmadJoyia
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Oh! In this way one can easily look at the word "mecca" where Muslims now have to make sure that they write "Mekkha" to distinguish it as their holy city than from the brothel. But obviously all are not so carefull, including myself. But can this really make both as same. I don't think so. But ofcourse there is no dearth of extremists, and certain Muslims are obviously no exception to it. |
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fredifreeloader
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angela - in german it means "pasha", but figuratively it means "male chauvinist", as in "den Pascha spielen" - "to act the lord and master"
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for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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fredifreeloader
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no ahmad, he allowed them to marry a woman temporarily - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhar i/060.sbt.html |
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for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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AhmadJoyia
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Says who?? The text of the hadith needs to be looked at without the "()" understanding of the translator, first. Its explanation comes after wards. Isn't it? |
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Mishmish
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Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." This verse was used in another thread here to discribe Jesus. Apparently someone was supposed to unite government and religion, a task also believed to be part of the job of the Messiah of Judaism. I think the difference between Islam and Christianity in this respect is that Muslims actually do try to have Islam cover all aspects of life. In early Islam the practice of Muta'a was allowed. But The Prophet forbade it later as it did not meet the criteria of marriage revealed in the Quran. Once something was revealed in the Quran, the old practices were forbidden. I think this is also the case in Christianity: eating pork, turning the other cheek, etc... I'm not really sure what you are objecting to. There are some Muslims in Egypt and Saudi practicing something that most scholars and the Islamic world have said are not correct. This is an innovation of the religion and a sin.
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