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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Miriam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2006 at 7:54am

You are quite right Abednego - didn't Jefferson create his own bible, having torn out those portions which he didn't agree with?

As far as the Jesus Seminars go, isn't it interesting that this group whose scholarship has been exposed as biased and faulty is used as a weapon against Christianity?

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My response: 

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Comment: But how could Jesus be with God in the beginning as this verse says if Jesus was created by God? And how could Jesus be "a god" and yet be with God during the creation, if God was speaking truthfully in Dt.32:39 when he said, "there are no gods with me"?

Is Jesus God? Jesus is not God because Jesus is a powerless man: John 5:30 I (Jesus) can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Allah is the All-Mighty God (Quran 59:22-24).....

Therefore Jesus is powerless so Jesus is not God for God is the All Mighty and All Powerfull !


 

God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2006 at 8:05am

Abed,

"Jefferson entitled his creation The Life and Morals of Jesus, and his book ended with the words, "There laid they Jesus . . . and rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulcher and departed."(2)" "

He has left nothing for you, George and me! He just shut the door and left.

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bm:  Of course, Muslims would have to disagree with Jefferson, since the Quran denies that he died, and therefore could not have been laid in a tomb.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2006 at 3:38am

Greetings, Mirium & welcome.

"bm:  Of course, Muslims would have to disagree with Jefferson, since the Quran denies that he died, and therefore could not have been laid in a tomb."

I meant that Jefferson stopped at that point and left out all about resurrection, which he might have thought was redundant. George and Abednego know me well.

Yes, as a Muslim, regarding Jesus, not only do I disagree with my Christian friends but I would also disagree with Jefferson. But I would like to add that Jefferson was a smart guy. I think he really read the NT too much.



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