Quran and Crucifixion

Sign*Reader,

"BMZ: Keep up the good work for holding the fort"

The fort is built on the most solid rock of them all.

You wrote something very interesting: "According to Enc--ia Britannica--One can not expect the tradition of the Passion to provide historically accurate reports, for it has been formed from the view point of the church and its faith in christ--"

And now please read this:

"The noun Crucifixion has one meaning:

Meaning #1: the death of Jesus on the cross"

I could not find Meaning #2  or perhaps, I missed it!

(Courtesy: http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?dsid=2222&dekey=Cruc ifixion&linktext=crucified

From the same site, here is something very interesting:

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For readers who cannot read Arabic, the second line, translated in English would be: "They hung up our Lord Messiah". They could not find a word in Arabic to show that barabaric Crucifixion, since the Arabs never crucifixed people like the Romans and the Jews did.  Paul, whom I dislike, at least told the truth, when he said:"They hung him up a tree."  Now you know well about the reasoning, that the tree is considered wood and theerefore the wood is considered the Cross.

Need I write anymore?   Yes, a little more. It has been exclusively reserved for Jesus, who had been "Crucifixed" while thousands of others like Spartacus and his 6,000 men were hung up and crucified by leaving to die slowly and rot.

A man can survive without water for seven days and without any food for forty days. Here people were hung up for a few hours and died before sabbath began!  

The reason given is strange that the legs were broken. To expedite Jesus' death before the sundown, a spear was thrust to let the blood and water flow while to expedite the death of others, their legs were broken, all done to keep the "prophecy on bones" intact and the Commandment, not broken (to bury before sunset).

Note that in Roman crucifixion, the man would take days to die. 

By the way, before I forget, do you know who killed the first animal in the history of the Universe?  I will tell you and I am sure you will agree with me. It was God, who skinned an animal and made garments from hide to cover their naked bodies. You have to trust me on this. It is in the Holy Bible (Genesis) and that was the First Animal Sacrifice.

Best Regards & Salaam Aalikum

BMZ

"The reason given is strange that the legs were broken. To expedite Jesus' death before the sundown, a spear was thrust to let the blood and water flow while to expedite the death of others, their legs were broken, all done to keep the "prophecy on bones" intact and the Commandment, not broken (to bury before sunset)."

no, jesus died before the soldier thrust the spear into his side

Alibaba wrote: Frankly, I was rather shocked to read that the Quran refers to crucifixion...

Indeed the Koran refers to (and confirms) the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Sura 86 tells us without a doubt that it occurred...

bmzsp wrote: Fredi: "no, jesus died before the soldier thrust the spear into his side" You are right. They just wanted to make sure he was "dead" according to John only. Tell me Fredi, why was Pilate surprised to hear that Jesus was dead? This is found only in Matthew.

because normally it would have taken much longer to die by crucifixion