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Dear AbRah,

Please accept my humble and heartfelt apology.  I made a terribly mistake and I honestly wondered why a Muslim would say such a thing about our Holy Mother! 

BMZ, thank you so much for point out the error of my ways.  I am so ashamed.

George, how could you ever say such a supposedly joking comment about the Mother of God?

Peace to all,

 
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Originally posted by AbRah2006 AbRah2006 wrote:

Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:


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Actually Muslims themselves seem to be doing a great job at discrediting�Islam?� What with suicide bombers, Taliban's behavior towards women�not allowing them to be educated, have property or any basic rights.� I am dismayed that Muslims did not rise to the defence of Afgani women and girls.


Surely when Muslims find behavior that goes against human rights we should do something and at the very least consult our leaders or other world leaders how to turn the behavior around without war.





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I believe that most of your sources are the western media that is biased against Muslims and Islam. Its reports are biased and it will not�publish�any news that will bring postive effect to Muslims and Islam. If you really want to know what has happened to Afghanistan and its people I suggest you make a research that will include the roles of the US govt and USSR in Afghanistan that cause so much suffering to the Muslims in Afghanistan.



yea who brought "taliban" to power in first place?



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Originally posted by ak_m_f ak_m_f wrote:

Originally posted by AbRah2006 AbRah2006 wrote:

Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:


 


 


Actually Muslims themselves seem to be doing a great job at discrediting Islam?  What with suicide bombers, Taliban's behavior towards women not allowing them to be educated, have property or any basic rights.  I am dismayed that Muslims did not rise to the defence of Afgani women and girls.


Surely when Muslims find behavior that goes against human rights we should do something and at the very least consult our leaders or other world leaders how to turn the behavior around without war.





 


I believe that most of your sources are the western media that is biased against Muslims and Islam. Its reports are biased and it will not publish any news that will bring postive effect to Muslims and Islam. If you really want to know what has happened to Afghanistan and its people I suggest you make a research that will include the roles of the US govt and USSR in Afghanistan that cause so much suffering to the Muslims in Afghanistan.



yea who brought "taliban" to power in first place?

but what has happened after taliban? thats what abrah is saying....
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Dear Patty,

"BMZ, thank you so much for point out the error of my ways.  I am so ashamed.

George, how could you ever say such a supposedly joking comment about the Mother of God? "

You don't have to feel ashamed. George should, he is the bad boy! I don't know what came over, covered him and inspired him to write that?   
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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

Patty,

From you: ["AbRah said:

"That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus? "]

There seems to be a little misunderstanding here. That was written by our good friend George, who was trying to engage AbRah into discussion and wrote it teasingly as a question.

No Muslim would write that kind of remark about dearest Mary.

Please check again. 

BMZ 

Patty, unfortunately, there are many Muslims who believe that Jesus was the biological son of Allah and Mary and they base it on verses in the Qur'an.  I run into it all of the time.  I saw some of it on this board in some discussion previous to my participation here.

AbRah's comment that God didn't have sons--there is only one God--made me consider that he was one of them.  Otherwise, why follow with there is only one God?

You might be interested in reading the discussion I am having with BMZ on this very subject here:

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4946& ;PN=1

BMZ, I have nothing to apologize for. AbRah has the opportunity to explain what he meant by what he said.  If he didn't mean biological son, then let him explain.

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Originally posted by Patty Patty wrote:

Dear AbRah,

Please accept my humble and heartfelt apology.  I made a terribly mistake and I honestly wondered why a Muslim would say such a thing about our Holy Mother! 

BMZ, thank you so much for point out the error of my ways.  I am so ashamed.

George, how could you ever say such a supposedly joking comment about the Mother of God?

Peace to all,

Read my previous post and you will know why.  It was no joke and I was not talking about Mary. Mary is innocent and pure.

Have you ever read the Qur'an, Patty?

Peace
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Originally posted by George George wrote:

Patty, unfortunately, there are many Muslims who believe that Jesus was the biological son of Allah and Mary and they base it on verses in the Qur'an.  I run into it all of the time.  I saw some of it on this board in some discussion previous to my participation here.

AbRah's comment that God didn't have sons--there is only one God--made me consider that he was one of them.  Otherwise, why follow with there is only one God?



George , there is no muslim who believes that Jesus is the son of God. And this is the last time you have used such derogatory remarks: "That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus?" Whether jokingly or in seriousness. This is a warning! You are free to believe what you want but you will NOT be allowed to make nonsense interpretations of the Quran. 
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You are damn wrong when you say this, George!

From you to Patty: "Patty, unfortunately, there are many Muslims who believe that Jesus was the biological son of Allah and Mary and they base it on verses in the Qur'an.  I run into it all of the time.  I saw some of it on this board in some discussion previous to my participation here."

There is not a single Muslim who belives that Jesus was the biological son of God and Mary. There is no verse in Qur'aan to base such nonsense. 

Muslims reject that Jesus was the son of God. Muslims believe that Jesus was the son of Mary. That's all. Qur'aan calls him Jesus son of Mary.

To create Jesus was very easy for God. Let us imagine for the sake of discussion that God said,"Let Mary have a child, without any man touching her" and it came to pass.
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