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I do not believe he said it, that is my right. It is not in tune with the Quran at all. And men use these kind of Hadiths against women. I understand the point of it, but if it is shirk and fatima said, then why should I accept it. You all are really confused and no one has a good explenation on how something can be the opposite of Quran and still be true. Something is right or wrong period. So should you bow before your husband or not? It is very simple, no long drawn out explenations. And Amah are you willing to bet your soul that all the Hadiths are true, even the ones that contradict Quran? I have more faith in Quran than Hadiths, they Quran is Protected and Hadiths are not. Tell me anywhere it says that Hadiths will be protected. They could have been changed or altered. I would not bet my life on them, I take them as useful historical advice. Quran I would bet my life on, and many people feel the same way. They just wont say it because they will be attacted by zealots who will tell them they are going to hell for questioning hadiths. I say more people need to question, and more people need to focus on Quran first!!

amah wrote: Jenni wrote: I also disagree with the hadith that says bow to your husband or something silly like that. It is totally silly and I don't believe it in any way shape or form. If you do not believe in hadith, it is your wish, but you are mocking it by calling it silly. Just because you personally do not agree with the hadith's wordings does not make it unauthentic. Maybe the Prophet really said this. At least show some respect. Wassalaam.

Bismillah,

Dear Sister Jenny,

I don't agree that you are mocking the prophet, whome we love and respect, our beloved leader, by calling a saying that you don't believe in silly.  People need to think clearly when they are accusing other Muslims of mocking our Esteemed Prophets.  When people falsely accuse others, Allah, The All-Knowing, takes that seriously.  And our judgment and return is from Him to Him.

Glad to see your comment, Brother AK.

Sister Fatima,

I see that you are speaking out of kindness and love.  But when you surround yourself with people who routinely accuse and threaten others with veiled or open methods, such as "you will burn in hell for this or that", their banality and heartlessness might rub off.

You know the pillars of faith and Taqwa that Sister Amah mentioned are the absolute most important things for Muslims.  Let's all concentrate on those.

Sister, Why don't you send books and lovely dresses, and pins with the name of Allah, SWT?  I will find people who need those things.  Indeed, I already know many a sister who only has a tattered dishdashi to wear, or whose child would love books with Islaamic stories in them, as they are prohibitively expensive for many of us poor folk in this supposedly rich country. (That last part was a silly reference to my hill billy roots, guys.)

Peace

ak_m_f, thanks for your support brother. I really enjoy reading your posts. peace(even the posts I don't agree with I enjoy reading!)

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

sister jenni wrote, 'I do not believe he said it, that is my right. It is not in tune with the Quran at all'. Allah swt says in Holy Quran, Surah Yusuf, 4. When Joseph said unto his father: O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating themselves unto me. and again '100. And he placed his parents on the dais and they fell down before him prostrate, and he said: O my father! This is the interpretation of my dream of old. My Lord hath made it true, and He hath shown me kindness, since He took me out of the prison and hath brought you from the desert after Satan had made strife between me and my brethren. Lo! my Lord is tender unto whom He will. He is the Knower, the Wise.

so you see Holy Quran does mention group of people prostrating infront of a person but for respect, and in these people there are two Prophets (as) of Allah swt, sis one thing you need to understand is that those people who spent their lives researching through materials were much more knowledgeable and practising than you and me,  and if there is o.ooooooo1% chance that narration might be hadith you should give it utmost respect, no one is asking you to follow it but be carefull what you say about it, people of knowledge never use to even say its not a hadith let alone use the words like silly and wierd for those narrations.

sis herjihad kindness and love towards people is joint to Love for Allah swt, if you can't even stand up for truth bcos you fear that people might dislike you then your faith is not doing much good to you, i don't know who have you made me groupies with on this board but i like reading posts of sis abeer, sis amah, brother peacemaker and i do love them for sake of my Lord for thier trying to adhere to shari'ah, and if any thing i get from them im sure its going to be good

wassalam

 

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