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peacemaker
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Posted: 17 June 2006 at 11:59am |
Assalamu Alaikum! What do you think? Peace Edited by peacemaker |
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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13 |
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Muslima
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I do agree completely. If you criticize your country, this is to improve it. in France for example, they are quite patriotic and they always do protests. At the same time being a French Algerian, I think in some societies, this is difficult to be patriotic if we as Muslims are not considered or being allowed to take part in the political and economical activities of the society. This explains the riots in France not so long ago. Personally, although I was born in Francee, if there was a war there tomorrow, I would not consider that I have been attacked. Although I have been only a few times in Algeria, I consider it as my land. Also, this is easier to feel this way for immigrants in Francee as we know from which national country we come from. But in the US, Black people are just afro-americans so they still feel americans I think. In France we felt close to them during Katrina as in France, it would have been us Muslims and Arabs and Africans in their situations. Edited by Muslima |
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Mishmish
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Assalamu Alaikum: I think America is unique in that anyone who comes here from another country can become an American. I think this is not true of most societies. I do love my country. I do not always love the policies of my country, and I am very vocal about that... But America is my home. I always become angry when people say: If you don't like America, leave. America was built on people not liking the status quo and working to change it. If everyone left who did not like America, it wouldn't even be an independent country now, but still colonies under British rule. I think that speaking out against injustice is not just the mandate of Muslims but of all people of conscience. Fortunately we can still do so in America. Although I do see this freedom and others like it being threatened in a very real way by the current administration. Insha'Allah this to shall pass... |
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Muslima
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I do agree with you Mishmish. I have a real problem with the US but I am sure that when the majority is like you Mishmish, we will be celebrating your country. |
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peacemaker
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Assalamu Alaikum! Sister Mishmish: "I think that speaking out against injustice is not just the mandate of Muslims but of all people of conscience." Jazak Allah Khair. I will move this thread to General Discussion. Peace |
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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
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fatima
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Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaikum i think patriotism is not solely for the boudries of a country, its for religion, a ruler and country among many other things, i think first and foremost is your religion, your religion tells you to be patriotic to your country and ruler, I love living in england bcos no one ever stopped me from practising my religion, i am a law abiding citizen, i don't like whats police is doing to many muslims at this point but i do agree that muslims should try to stop their kids from going to extreme and think its good killing innocent people. now fighting for sake of your country thats a tricky bit bcos i don't think i can support england in killing thousands of muslims, same goes to another country of mine which is pakistan, i hate what musharraf did, he used muslims troops to kill muslims and a very clear hadith states hell as resort for people who die fighting against fellow muslims, wassalam |
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herjihad
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Bismillah, Why are we patriotic? Because of love and loyalty to family, friends, and neighbors? We want to do the best for them. Does that mean that we should do anything we can so that they can lead a peaceful life, or does it mean that we should help them to live righteous lives? A life dedicated to our Loving Lord, the All-Powerful Allah is a righteous life. Should we support the rules and mechanisms of a country because "we found our forefathers doing that", or should we correct the errors and shout out the injustices? I think we should think very long and hard for ourselves on this topic. Going with the flow is so much easier: The flow of a country's ways, the flow of the "religious" people in charge. First off, we are obligated to think things through so that we won't be following the errors of our parents blindly, as the Holy Quran instructs us to avoid such an error. Peace Oh, thinking is allowed. Let's not stop thinking. Ideas vitalize us. |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Patty
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Beautiful post, herjihad! God's Peace! |
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