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Originally posted by fatima fatima wrote:

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

sister jenni wrote, 'I do not believe he said it, that is my right. It is not in tune with the Quran at all'. Allah swt says in Holy Quran, Surah Yusuf, 4. When Joseph said unto his father: O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating themselves unto me. and again '100. And he placed his parents on the dais and they fell down before him prostrate, and he said: O my father! This is the interpretation of my dream of old. My Lord hath made it true, and He hath shown me kindness, since He took me out of the prison and hath brought you from the desert after Satan had made strife between me and my brethren. Lo! my Lord is tender unto whom He will. He is the Knower, the Wise.

so you see Holy Quran does mention group of people prostrating infront of a person but for respect, and in these people there are two Prophets (as) of Allah swt, sis one thing you need to understand is that those people who spent their lives researching through materials were much more knowledgeable and practising than you and me,  and if there is o.ooooooo1% chance that narration might be hadith you should give it utmost respect, no one is asking you to follow it but be carefull what you say about it, people of knowledge never use to even say its not a hadith let alone use the words like silly and wierd for those narrations.

Bismillah,

I don't see how this story encourages or allows prostration to another person today.

Even the If clause is offensive to my belief in Al-Ahad, and it definitely approaches shirk, so I strongly disavow this idea.

sis herjihad kindness and love towards people is joint to Love for Allah swt, if you can't even stand up for truth bcos you fear that people might dislike you then your faith is not doing much good to you, i don't know who have you made me groupies with on this board but i like reading posts of sis abeer, sis amah, brother peacemaker and i do love them for sake of my Lord for thier trying to adhere to shari'ah, and if any thing i get from them im sure its going to be good

wassalam

I see that you are making a couple of points here, but I'm not sure exactly what they all are.

I know that people dislike me and my faith because I stand up for it and my children regularly.  I don't believe that Allah, SWT, has decreeed that women be in the front of the battle by being uniquely dressed alone while the men are at the beach in swim trunks or at work in their jeans or dress shirts and suits.  When my muslim family/community decides to understand this principle, I intend to join them in their expression of their belief that men should be in the front of the battle, not hiding behind rhetoric that women are commanded to look different or even wearing their beards only because beards are very common and they still blend in, especially well in bars and at beaches.

Hot days are here and I once again wear long, loose clothing fully covered.  The women ask me if I'm hot.  Yes, I am.  Why are you wearing that jacket?  I still stick out more than I should compared to our brothers who refuse to dress distinctively. 

People who insist that other believers must believe exactly as them and bully them constantly should reevaluate their effect on faithful lovers of Allah, SWT, and His messengers.  Is it so important that you force everyone to behave exactly as you do that you alienate half a world of Muslims?

Peace

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatima Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 6:59am
honestly some times i feel like banging my head against a wall , 'I don't see how this story encourages or allows prostration to another person today' no it don't, what i was trying to tell was that bowing of respect was allowed in the previous nations and for us even that is not allowed so people don't confuse it with ibadah, point i was trying to make was that you cant just rule out a narration as being hadith due to its wording, because discussion that was going on between sahabi (ra) and Sayyidina Muhammad (saw) was about ways of previous nations or ahlul kitab so he used the gesture which shows utmost respect in their sense and meant utmost respect nothing more than that
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 ya allah, fight over everything...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote birizbiz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 7:00pm

...anyway what about these covers?

and more...

http://www.biriz.biz/tesettur/tekbir/index.htm

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote amah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by fatima fatima wrote:

i like reading posts of sis abeer, sis amah, brother peacemaker and i do love them for sake of my Lord for thier trying to adhere to shari'ah, and if any thing i get from them im sure its going to be good



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ZEA  J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by birizbiz birizbiz wrote:

...anyway what about these covers?

http://www.biriz.biz/tesettur/tekbir/index.htm

mashaAllah.....they are very pretty,i would like to see my self in some of those dresses and hijabs. 

"You will never attain piety and righteousness,(and eventually paradise)until you
spend of that which you love."(Al-Imran:92)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote schwester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 10:51pm
yeaa, it's not possible to refuse wearing like this. and even if one does refuse, i guess there is the only reason - she is not muslim. no other reasons

is there any site showing how to do different styles with scarves/etc?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote birizbiz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 2:28am

what you want is here...

for scarves...

and more...

http://www.biriz.biz/tesettur/armine/index.htm

for dresses

and more...

http://www.biriz.biz/tesettur/dicle/index.htm

and if you want more I can give for more adresses and dresses from

www.biriz.biz

 

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