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Muslima 
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 Posted: 22 June 2006 at 12:23pm |
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A lot of people think he is blond. Once I laughed my head off because an English guy was saying that Jesus was white and blond. My algerian friend said; can't you see this is the actor from hollywood who's blond?! He still would not believe it, saying all the pictures he saw of jesus were like this and he knew what Jesus looked like. Honestly, it was really funny! Edited by Muslima |
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ak_m_f
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Posted: 22 June 2006 at 12:37pm |
What is the earliest record of Jesus's Pic ? who made it ? was it during jesus time? |
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DavidC
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Posted: 22 June 2006 at 1:47pm |
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Here you go, AK
http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm The Description of Publius Lentullus The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus. "There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men" The letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar This is a reprinting of a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus. Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C. TO TIBERIUS CAESAR: A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the Jews -- not the poor but the rich and powerful. Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man. There was nothing in Him that was repelling, nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day. Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken the time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health; calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offense and as others have said, we must agree -- truly this is the Son of God. Your most obedient servant, Pontius Pilate Edited by DavidC |
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Lameese
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Posted: 22 June 2006 at 2:04pm |
You don't know many people, do you? Or you have not really been out much. Many many many think this is the case. And I know a lot of them that do.
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Posted: 22 June 2006 at 2:34pm |
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akm, shall I say "images" instead of "pictures"? I am not sure there was polaroid at his time;-) STAFELLAH! |
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Posted: 22 June 2006 at 5:21pm |
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Angela I have to agree with Lameese there are various images
of a lighter complexion of Jesus. Like Patty said his complexion should not matter--rather his teachings however because we are a physical species and very imaginative the external figure of Jesus matters. in this world there is no physical evidence of his figure except a few letters and what it says in the bible. However we the people get the perspective of historians and artist but they themselves are human and liable of error. In various African-american churches inside there are various images of a "Black" Jesus with an Afro. Personally as an African-American and Muslim I find such images as repulsive and offensive as i do with the images of a white Jesus I have seen. Because we are so inclined to show what color what prophet is because we want to feel closer to God than the next race we lose sight of the significance of the message. We are perhaps most primitive when we analyze not the message but the prohet's external figure by appropriating cultural aspects. For example in the Mexican culture in Mexico many people worship "Our Lady of Guadalupe" the town where an indian peasant had an aparition. Although its a noble and find culture I find the practice of revering a non-central figure to be totally against ancient Judaic teachings. Muslims as no different and in fact more interesting than the former groups. We have various sects who don't agree on most things (except spiritual matters such as God's Oneness etc) and fight over who's right and who's wrong. I even read that I couln't eat with my left hand because the devil eats with his left hand.....I mean honestly we have truly lost our way! |
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Posted: 22 June 2006 at 5:56pm |
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Great post, Israfil! Peace be with you..... |
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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:03am |
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Israfil, I tell you why you are not supposed to eat with your left hand. This is because you are supposed to use this hand to wash your parts in the washroom. Do you see what i mean? We wash with watter. You cannot use your right hand to do that because you use your right hand to do Shahada, with the finger. This is the reason why. We also say when you give money, only your right hand should know how much you are giving. of course, this is just to say you should not brag about it, but the right hand is suppowsed to do cleaner things if you want than the left hand. Salam brother. |
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