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Mark 12:29
Jesus (Pbuh) also said:  The first of all the commandments is hear, O Israel the Lord our God is one Lord.

Whoever believes there is only One Lord... ONE GOD is a muslim...

To become a muslim... you have to say There is no God but God... and Mohammad is his messenger.

Jesus (Pbuh) was also a messenger like Mohammad (Pbuh)... also spreading the same message... your Lord is ONE LORD.. ONE GOD.... not trinity.

You can't be a muslim without believing in Jesus (Pbuh) as a messenger of God.

So, to get to your question... we are off the Hook... Not Exactly.

Allah also said, no religion will be accepted except Islam... after  Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).

True believers of Jesus believed in One God.

so, to be off the "hook" you'd have to follow that ONE GOD.

May God show you the right path, Inshallah.

Peace be upon you.

Hamid
Ma'Salama,
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Patty,
I live a stones throw away from Har Megido or as you call it Armegedon
Should I be worried?
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Originally posted by DigitalStorm82 DigitalStorm82 wrote:

l=arb&nSora=19&nAya=32#19_32"><span ="trn">Chapter 1932. </
span>"And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant,
unblest.<a name="19_33"></a>l=arb&nSora=19&nAya=33#19_33"><span ="trn"> 33. </span>[/
URL">"And Sal�m (peace) be upon me the
day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised
alive!"
<span ="trn">Chapter 355. </span>And (remember) when
All�h said: "O ��s� (Jesus)! I will
take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement
that
��s� (Jesus) is All�h�s son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those
who
follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but All�h) superior to those
who
disbelieve [in the Oneness of All�h, or disbelieve in some of His
Messengers,
e.g. Muhammad ??? ???? ???? ????, ��s� (Jesus), M�s� (Moses), etc., or in His
Holy Books, e.g. the Taur�t (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), the Qur��n] till the
Day of Resurrection<font size="-1"><sup>[1"></sup>
.
Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in
which
you used to dispute."Also Read Below to clarify... Jesus didn't die nor was
he killed... He'll return... kill the antichrist... and live out his life... and
then RAISED ALIVE on the day of ressurrection... AKA Judgement Day.

<span ="trn">Chapter 4157. </span>And because of their
saying (in boast), "We killed
Messiah ��s� (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of All�h," - but
they
killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them [the
resemblance
of ��s� (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and
those
who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge,
they
follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ��s�
(Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ?????? ??????]:<a name="4_158"></a> quran/display/display.asp?l=arb&nSora=4&nAya=158#4_158">< span
="trn">     158. </span>But All�h raised him [��s� (Jesus)] up
(with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he ???? ?????? is in the heavens).
And All�h is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.May Allah guide you all,
Inshallah.W'salaamz,Hamid


Whoa!!!! Does that mean we're off the hook?
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Asalamu Alaikum,

Bro, I think you need to look at the translation of Yusuf Ali and Pickthall.

Dawood translation clearly contradicts the Quran chapter 4 vs. 153.  What does the Dawood translation say in Chapter 4 vs. 153?

Yusuf Ali or Pickthall translations clearly says he was raised up to the heavens... 

In Dawood, his death comes out of nowhere...  

Jesus was raised up Alive, and there is so many hadith which suggest that...

You should research a bit more...

W'salaamz,
Hamid
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I have translations by Dawood and Ali.

All three translate a qoute from Jesus saying that he would indeed die one day in 19:33---

Ali:

"There was peace on me the day I was born,and will be the day that I die, and on the day I will be raised from the dead."

Dawood:

"I was blessed on the day I was born, and blessed I shall be on the day of my death, and may peace be upon me on the day when I shall be raised to life."

Now, Chapter 3:55---

 

Ali:

When God said:"O Jesus, I will take you to myself and exalt you, and rid you of the infidels, and hold those who follow you......"

Dawood:

He said: "Jesus, I am about to cause you to die and lift you up to me. I shall take you away from the unbelievers and exalt your followers..."

 

 

 
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Chapter 19
32. "And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.

33. "And Sal�m (peace) be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!"

Chapter 3
55. And (remember) when All�h said: "O ��s� (Jesus)! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement that ��s� (Jesus) is All�h�s son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but All�h) superior to those who disbelieve [in the Oneness of All�h, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers, e.g. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم, ��s� (Jesus), M�s� (Moses), etc., or in His Holy Books, e.g. the Taur�t (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), the Qur��n] till the Day of Resurrection[1]. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute."


Also Read Below to clarify... Jesus didn't die nor was he killed... He'll return... kill the antichrist... and live out his life... and then RAISED ALIVE on the day of ressurrection... AKA Judgement Day.

Chapter 4
157. And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah ��s� (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of All�h," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them [the resemblance of ��s� (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ��s� (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) عليهما السلام]:

     158. But All�h raised him [��s� (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he عليه السلام is in the heavens). And All�h is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.


May Allah guide you all, Inshallah.

W'salaamz,
Hamid
Ma'Salama,
Hamid
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Originally posted by B.H. B.H. wrote:

Amah,

 

Jesus himself said he would die in peace, though he did not die on the cross if I understand right.

 

One qoute from the Holy Quran is from Jesus himself found in 19:32-33. Another is found in 3:55, and comparing it with 19:32-33 I assume Allah took him by allowing him to die first.

can you  qoute  these suras for us please, B.H
"You will never attain piety and righteousness,(and eventually paradise)until you
spend of that which you love."(Al-Imran:92)
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He will die after he returns from the heaven... he will die after he lives out his life... he will die after he beats the anti-christ aka Dajjal.
Ma'Salama,
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