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Duende
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Patty, please give us some links to the 'research' you have done.
Concluding that someone is narcissistic is hardly earth shattering news: use a dictionary sometime and think about it. For every normal sane decent human being, you will find three who judge him/her to be suffering from some mental 'illness'. In fact, most such conditions are perfectly normal and only cause problems when they disrupt normal social interaction (whatever that may be ...) The fashion for labelling each and every twist of human nature with an officious sounding title can easily lead one to diagnose a long list of mental problems and apply it to absolutely everybody. You, more than most of us at this present moment should be aware how a death of someone close to us can change our behaviour and influence us in ways we never would have suspected previously. The trend to build up personalities and watch while they bask in the limelight is common world-wide. The ease with which society then throws stones and accusations, 'discovers' past misdemeanours and incoherencies, inconsitencies etc and proceeds to topple self-made and media-made heroes is amazing to behold. It is today's best selling entertainment. As I said in an earlier post: what Cindy Sheehan thought or felt and how she behaved prior to the death of her son is not relevant to the importance of the cause she has embraced and given face and voice to: bringing American troops out of Iraq. The media and others will delight in shooting her down, and with what motive? If you do not support her cause it is far easier to pick holes in her and accuse her of having some kind of 'agenda' other than the one she really has: that of showing her fellow countrymen the stark realities of Iraq today, and how vital it is to get out of there. |
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ummziba
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Patty, You seem to think that not putting flowers on graves is some kind of terrible thing, but, dear, that is only from your perspective. You might be interested to know that Muslims do not decorate graves, most don't even use headstones. You might like to read a bit about this here: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=701&C ATE=115 Hope this helps show you another perspective about graves. Peace, ummziba. |
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
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mariyah
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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.
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Hayfa
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It is amazing how when someone comes out to call attention to our behavior we act in a defensive manner? We tend to turn around and "put down" the person. She is challenging the status quo. Never a good thing. I am grateful that she has spoken out. Too many people are afraid. Whether or not she is "perfect" and meets every person's criteria she at least found a conscious. She is not a politician. What she did or not do before is irrelevant. We all should all be allowed to grow and change. Sometimes it takes something like the loss of a loved one to "wake up." We all also grieve very differently. No, one way is the answer. My parents buried three still-born babies and never did visit the graves. They were in their hearts and with the Divine. Yes, she may seek out publicity.. but is that bad to try and save lives? Even if she does have �mental health issues� should that then make her unworthy of speaking? On another note: When my father passed away he wished to have his body donated to science. Those arrangements were made. About a year later his remains were buried. We do not know where. As my mother said, he is in our hearts and that is most important.
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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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Sign*Reader
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Which Crab is not, look at the POTUS. I think you are acting your personality of the Ram, and being too aggressive yourself on accusing a Crab mom on how to act on loss of loved one. Why would you study Cindy very intensely. What is your vested interest anyway unless you are a typical war mongering Aries yourself and can�t reconcile with her POV. Now she has a mission, so let it be.
Not true. You don�t really believe in this false urban legend, do you? http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sheehan.asp
I don�t believe that, if you did travel clear across country to check on the gravesite and flowers. For Crab Moms the
life is more valuable than stones. I know quite a few crabs, How many do you ? Anyways I don't see it a valid issue.
I see you are one heck of a judgmental Catholic-MG!!! You are
acting true to your sign of Ram, charging over the poor Cancer Mom over the
loss of her son. She can not be like you Mrs Ram, they live on feelings. I have a Cancer child and also an Aries child. And I see their interaction on daily basis. I know so Don�t
pass the judgment unless you want to be judged.
Again judgmental and don�t be too certain about anything,
the
Even if you were a MD Psychiatrist, this is harsh diagnosis on remote without any lab or examination to
level on Cindy. Again living with her thing--man the ram doesn't give up--this is such trivial issue as compared to not seeing him alive or her grand kids in her old age ever again which is the significant matter. Issue is still valid this whole Iraq thing is based on lies, lies and lies. You lie is one thing, the POTUS lies is a disaster for the enlisted and the weekend warriors who have assumed room temperature bcs they were so brain washed by the propaganda that with american hi tech fire power they are perfectly safe in their humvies and no raghead with fanbelt around his head could touch them. And the worlds largest oil field will belong to the good old USA/UK/neocons/ the oil companies. And it didn't turnout that way-- rest is history. |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Hanan
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Duende
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Hanan, I'm so glad you came to this forum! Another passionate voice
of reason. Without reading through your whole post (later), I must quote something here and now for you, since I am right on this page of the absolutely brilliant book: Iraq The Logic of Withdrawal, by Anthony Rove, where he speaks of the need to gain that critical mass of opposition we've spoken about before. He also says; "We must highlight the class aspects of this war. Who is fighting, who is dying, who is sending troops to fight? Why are there billions of dollars available for this war, yet schools are crumbling and forty- five million people in the United States do not have any health insurance, while tens of millions more have inadequate or only partial coverage?" He speaks about how the war in Iraq is not using up the US's 'finest' (as GW Bush would have us believe) but more like the US's dregs who have very little choice but to enlist in an army which promises them food and shelter, education etc., and who are energetically recruited from the places they frequent by officers who understand precisely the kind of 'cannon fodder' they're getting. |
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ops154
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Yep everyone I knew joined the military for the money. Anyways after your little private message to me, that I have yet to figure out why you sent it it, I really don't care about your opinion but I did want to point out one thing. That video you talking about was contractors who are NOT part of the military.
I become disgusted anytime a muslim sticks up for Hizbulla, Hamas or anyone of the several terrorists groups knowing you will never go join them in their fight. You post on a message board like you are doing something constructive and then you feel you never have to do anything else for the cause. |
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Get it through your heads that I don't support Bush or the Israeli's! Thank your lucky stars for America is here to stay!!!
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