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Muhammad77

You must be joking.
Whole libraries have been written about the history of Christianity.
 Such an interesting event as the existence of Islamic Christians would have been documented and taught in every religion class.

There are so many things that are mentioned in the Quran and are not found in reality. I am afraid we have to add those "Islamic" Christians to the list.



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Originally posted by Cyril Cyril wrote:

Muhammad77

You must be joking.
Whole libraries have been written about the history of Christianity.
 Such an interesting event as the existence of Islamic Christians would have been documented and taught in every religion class.

There are so many things that are mentioned in the Quran and are not found in reality. I am afraid we have to add those "Islamic" Christians to the list.

Ok, then may be even those people who write the books may not be knowing anything about it. We don't know much about the "Islamic" Christians because those "Islamic" Christians were there only for a short period of time. As time passed on, tampering, distorting of The Bible began to take place.

Or even if something is known about "Islamic" Christians, they would not be writing it in the books purposely, because they may be wanting to reject the truth and hide the reality.

 



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Quote As time passed on, tampering, distorting of The Bible began to take place.


You still have not explained how the tampering could have taken place knowing that the same Bible (minus the NT) was in the hands of the Jews and in those of the Christians, and knowing their fierce religious opposition, which would have prevented a concerted tampering.

You must also explain why the Jews tampered with their Scriptures and showed up to now the utmost care in their written preservation.

You must also explain how come all copies of the Bible that date from before Jesus' time are identical with those from after his time.

 

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Cyril,

They did not know that it would get tampered. They just followed the instructions and allowed them to translate into different languages, so that people could understand, but this translation resulted in the tampering and distorting of The Bible. The same thing happened with other scriptures as well.



 



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So the translated versions of the Bible are corrupted?

What about the copies that exist dating prior to the diaspora that are still in the native tongue?

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Originally posted by Patty Patty wrote:

With all due respect, the priests, monks, and friars of antiquity did not "mischieviously tamper, distort, or corrupt" the Bible.  All they did was translate it into languages that could be read by all the people.  The Gospel and all scriptures are the same as they've always been, the ONLY difference is they were translated to make them understandable in a variety of languages. 

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Angela,

The entire Injeel is NOT corrupted. But some parts or verses are still there in their original form. We Muslims do not believe in such Holy books which have the slightest of corruption. Allah did NOT give Jesus (pbuh) a corrupted book. Whenever Allah reveals a book to His Prophet, it is pure and in its original form. But there are some people on earth who distorted, tampered these Holy books. So Allah finally revealed His final word The Holy Qur'an to the final messenger Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.

Allah has challenged in The Qur'an that no one can produce even a like of the verse of The Qur'an, as it is The True Word of Allah which has been revealed to the final messenger Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and Allah has revealed in The Qur'an that He will safeguard The Qur'an and preserve this Holy Book till the Day Of Judgement.

The only Prophet to be followed now is Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and the only book to be believed in is the Holy Qur'an and the Only Lord to be worshipped is the True Lord, the Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the entire 'alamin, the Lord of the unseen and the seen, and He is Allah, and the only religion that is accepted by Allah is Islam.

 



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Quote But there are some people on earth who distorted, tampered these Holy books


Who, when and where? It is not only your credibility which is at stake.


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