Sharia: Coerced Conversion Binding?

ejdavid wrote: Incidentally, the non-Christian Indian authorities seem pleased to have my family and their projects, though I do not know if these authorities are Hindu, Muslim or some other religion. However, I believe they aprove for several reasons. First, the missionaries take some of the plentiful orphans off their hands. In addition, they bring added wealth and provide some jobs for the local constituents. Always a good thing in an election. And finally, when my family shows up from California, they are something of an exotic entertainement for everybody. In some cases, the people have never even seen a Westerner before! What fun! How can you dissaprove!

That is a real nice deflection!

Now back to the point. Many Christians use the Pauline letters as an excuse to use deceitful, and questionable means to convert people. As longh as it is for Jesus, how can Gd possibly hold you accountable?

You are deflecting from the point by trying to show how nice the gifts are.

One is aggresive per say and one is passive resisitent. They both are their own form of manipulation.  What happened to the reporters is NOT accepted by the Moslem community, whereas it is accepted by a certain percentage of the Christian community.

No prophet of God would do either.

 

 

Angel - You wrote that when my family supplies food, an orphanage, trinkets and entertainment it is not supperior to what the Muslim gunmen did to the FOX reporters. If that is the case, then I worry for both your intellect and your soul.

You also wrote: "...how do you know they are not just agreeing to get the materials to live by?" I don't and I don't care. Perhaps they are pretending to convert to get the food, clothing, education and trinkets. Who cares? They may continue to be Hindus in their hearts, and no one will harm them.

You also wrote: "...Tell me how do you see this as right?" IMHO, I do not particularly like outsiders raising the standard of living of selected individuals. Sort of like winning a lottery.

However, have you ever met many people who themselves objected to winning a lottery. And I repeat, the local authorities approve for the various reasons listed above. Do you REALLY believe these same authorities would believe the same thing if Muslim gunmen came in? Whether they actually shot anyone or not?

You also wrote; "Obviously you are Christian." It is not obvious at all, and I have already expressed my concerns about raisning one poor person above the others. Who am I, however, to deny unexpected wealth to a poor community, like orphans. Clearly, the local authorities actually aprove, for all the reasons I have previously provided. I will defer to the Hindu (or other) authorities who have jurisdiction in this matter.

Do you defer to the elected representatives, or their appointed authorities. Presumably Islam does not recognize such political arraingements by voters.

FULL DISCLOSURE

For the better part of a decade I have been studying Islamic history. Further, I have deliberately saught out extremist English Speaking Islamic sites for the purpose of agressively confronting the participants.

I stopped this confrontation for two reasons. First, my fiancee' feared for her life. This fear was, IMHO, not unfounded. Why? I live on an isolated mountain with an access road with no exit. On one particular occasion I noticed several dark skinned men and a boy take up residence in the unoccupied home directly below mine.

One day I observed two of these men walking accross my land directly towards my residence. I confronted them, as is the mountain custom, and told them to leave the premisses. They did not go quietly. The were arogant, and confrontational in return. Though they did leave.

Subseqently I called the local cops. The cop asked me if the rustling below my deck might be the interlopers or 'critters'. I said critters: the interlopers were down below. The cop and I proceeded to the house these people were encamped. They were cooking on an out door grill. The cop asked they men what they were doing up on my property. They said chasing a rabbit. The cop humorously pointed at the grill, and everyone laughed.

However, the cop asked where they were from. They all said Chile. What a joke. If there is one accent an American can identify it is Spanish. Further, I spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe, especially in Romania. Further, my fathers first lanquage is Hungarian. I know an Easter European accent when I hear one.

My estimate was these men spoke Albanian, as a first lanquage. Curiously, these men did not appoologize for trespassing. They DID however, accept my calculated appology for throwing them off my property.

These things are not normal in my mountains. But this is only the beginning.