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    Posted: 18 September 2006 at 7:03am
Salaam,

You asked if I could create a topic in this section for i have.

OK, I want to know how many angels helped the Muslims in battle of badar, I will give you a clue the answer is in the Qu�ran.

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Originally posted by Rational Mind Rational Mind wrote:

Salaam,

You asked if I could create a topic in this section for i have.

OK, I want to know how many angels helped the Muslims in battle of badar, I will give you a clue the answer is in the Qu�ran.

Thanks for the clue.

I don't think there was any at all, the context of verses in there seem to me indicating it that way.

I am sure you know something here.

 

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So a full-day a non of you could answer me? lol I will give you another BIG clue.

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Originally posted by Rational Mind Rational Mind wrote:

So a full-day a non of you could answer me? lol I will give you another BIG clue.

8.9 - 10

Irrational conclusion (as opposed to your name!). A full day might go by, but that does not mean that all Muslims have spent all day, or have time to chase juvenile games.

I would be more than happy to discuss the issue of angels and Badr and give you an answer, just as soon as you state your point and clarify your intention.

 

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Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Lets cut the chase shall we, If you here to learn then yeah inshaAllah myself and other members will try thier best to explain islamic ways and ruling to you. But you need to stay in the circle of respect and manners, otherwise dont expect any answer from us.

Now i dont want to go in circles and explain things in random for you. We will come to each topic in its own good time.

Firstly DO YOU BELIEVE IN ONE GOD? WHAT DOES YOUR THEOLOGY SAY ABOUT CREATOR AND CREATION?

I know that you are the one wanting to ask question but for me to actually show you the reality, i need to see where you went off the track.

 

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Assalaamu alaikum 

I see Aquinian is at it again. I would encourage my brothers ands sisters read some of his old posts and you will see that the technique has not changed much. He loves to confound the minds of the people of the Ummah.

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Originally posted by fatima fatima wrote:

Bismillah irrahman irrahim


Lets cut the chase shall we, If you here to learn then yeah inshaAllah�myself and other members will try thier best to explain islamic ways and ruling to you. But you need to stay in the circle of respect and manners, otherwise dont expect any answer from us.


Now i dont want to go in circles and explain things in random for you. We will come to each topic in its own good time.


Firstly DO YOU BELIEVE IN ONE GOD? WHAT DOES YOUR THEOLOGY SAY ABOUT CREATOR AND CREATION?


I know that you are the one wanting to ask question but for me to actually show you the reality, i need to see where you went off the track.




Yeah I do believe in one-god. I actually call my god Allah. All I know is god created everything such as the universe. And we humans evolved.

However I also understand that Allah is not going to make mathematical contradictions, and he isn't going to deliberately make some humans "deaf, dumb and blind" and then send them to eternal damnation! a merciful Allah would not do this.
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Originally posted by Andalus Andalus wrote:

Originally posted by Rational Mind Rational Mind wrote:

So a full-day a non of you could answer me? lol I will give you another BIG clue. 8.9 - 10



Irrational conclusion (as opposed to your name!). A full day might go by, but that does not mean that all Muslims have spent all day, or have time to chase juvenile games.


I would be more than happy to discuss the issue of angels and Badr and give you an answer, just as soon as you state your point and clarify your intention.




OK, with respect to battle of badar and the angels...
Allah in the Qu'ran states, in verses: 3.124, 126 that 3000 angels helped the Muslims, in the Battle of badar and then later in the Qu'ran Allah contradict this and makes a cartographic mathematical error in verses 8.9, 10 by stating that it was 1000 angels that helped the Muslims in the battle of badar therefore Allah makes a contradiction. A prefect god doesn't make contradictions.
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