The Bible has errors?

Hi Andalus,
You said: I hope to have time to address this issue later. For now, I say that all you have to do is read and look closely at the numerous bible editions, and you will find "brackets" around numerous verses that indicate problems with the verse (an admittance of error from Christians). Such verses include the famous story about the adulterer.
I disagree that the brackets around numerous verses indicate problems with the verse and with your interpretation of it being an admittnace of error from Christians. 

Imo, a truer example would be putting "it is" in front of  "it's" in order to clarify the meaning.

I would say that, if you look for something to condemn, you will find it.   And, if you look for agreement, you will find it. Whatever you are looking for, you will find.  How long that discovery will endure is another matter, though.  God is in control.  He is working all things together for good--that's positive. 

Do you see something to build upon (something positive) or something to destroy (something negative)?

Are you a builder or a destroyer?
Imo, we have had enough destruction.  It is tiime for Christians and Moslems to seek unity rather than division.  ....to cease from "I am right, and you are wrong" and start looking for righteousness in the others.....to, as the Bible teaches, esteem others more highly than ourselves.....to credit them with having understanding that differs from yours but is still understanding.

If you choose to seek errors in the Bible, you will find it.  Likewise, if you seek to find errors in the Quran, you will find it.  But, in either case, the errors will only exist in your own mind.  The Quran is infallible truth.  The Bible is infallible truth. 

The fallibility exists only in the (mis)understanding of the individual.

Redneck wrote:

> If we assume that the King James version is a perfect copy of the original...

Before I respond, I need to first understand what you are claiming.

You seem to be saying that the original biblical manuscripts were written in English.  Correct?   

Or, alternatively, if you believe that the original manuscripts were not written in English, then how in the world could the King James version be a perfect copy of the original???

According to you, if one person says of a chair that it is black and another one says the chair is black and behind the table, then the second person is lying or fabricating?

Redneck:  �Where to start? If the fact that there are many different versions, not translations but versions isn't enough we need to pick any one of those and begin there.�

When there are many perspectives (versions) seen by one and expressed (translated) to another, that is the scientific method of investigation and is taught in scripture.

Sometimes bringing to light the many times the bibles have been changed doesn't cut any grass with the bible thumping gospeler because they hold to the idea that they have the right copy/version/ translation/ addition and all others are in error and contain interpolations.

Yes.  Everyone of all religions goes through that phase.  That�s part of the learning process�seeing good and evil.  We must isolate (choose, favor) one over all the others in order to have a starting point.  

Rather that go down this road, let's assume that the bible, is unchanged and all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed. Let's assume that it is a perfect copy of the original. To do this we have to single out one version or another. The most widely used version is the King James. So lets go with that for now.

Actually, you have chosen to go down that road by choosing to assume that the KJV is a perfect copy.  But, there�s nothing wrong with the road.  Error arises when we stop.  What good is a starting point if we never go anywhere?   And, what good is it to start unless we finish?   The starting point is choosing something to value�to see the good in it. 

When we learn to see good in one thing, we should not stop there but look for good in something else---and continue on until we see as the Creator sees�that all is good�..because we see the right order of things. 

Suppose I am in the middle of cleaning out the closet.  If you do not understand the process, and judge what I am doing by what you see thus far, you would say I am making a mess---just the opposite of what I say I am doing�cleaning.  You would judge what I am doing as bad (evil).  You see only the present mess.  I envision the clean closet that shall be.  If you could see what I have in mind, instead of disagreeing with me, you would agree that I am cleaning the closet.

If we assume that the King James version is a perfect copy of the original we are then faced with this question.......

 Because we find errors in it, was it ever any good or from God in the first place?

 In the interest of being brief I will point out only one in this post. More later if need be.

Let�s examine that process.

If you truly accept the KJV as the perfect copy of the original and say you see errors in it, and stop there, then:

1. The KJV is a perfect copy of the original.  There are errors in the KJV.  Therefore, the original has errors.
2. The original has no errors.  The KJV does have errors.  Therefore, the KJV is not a perfect copy of the original.
   

It�s really quite simple, isn�t it?  All you have to do is compare the KJV to the original.  If there is a difference, then, you have proven that the KJV is not a perfect copy of the original.

But, there is one slight problem�you don�t have the original.  Since you aren�t using the original to judge the KJV�

1. You really didn�t assume that the KJV was a perfect copy. 
1. You assumed something else was a perfect copy, and you compared that perfect thing to the KJV in order to prove that it was not a perfect copy. 
2. You did actually assume that the KJV was a perfect copy.
1. You distinguish between �perfect and �more perfect��.�perfect� does not mean �flawless� because �perfect� is more flawed than �more perfect.
   

If #1, I would ask what that �something else� is that you consider to be the perfect copy, instead of the KJV. 

If #2, I would ask how you determined the �more perfect� to be so? 

You say that there are errors in the KJV.  What did you compare to the KJV that revealed those errors��and, subsequently, caused you to question, was it ever any good or from God in the first place?

If I had to take a guess, I would say that you are leaning to your own understanding as the standard by which you measure the KJV and judge it to be erroneous.  Similarly, in the example of cleaning the closet, the negative assessment stemmed from leaning to limited understanding. 

More about process:

Sarita has stated that she sees the good in Islam.  I would encourage you to show her more of that goodness.  You don�t need to condemn what she already has in order to make Islam look good.  Imo, that shows lack of faith.  Islam is good.  When you truly believe that, you will focus on the good of Islam rather than on the evil of things that seem contrary to Islam. 

If you think she believes a lie, you don�t have to condemn the lie in order for her to receive the truth.  Just present the truth, and it will expose the lie.  Focus on what is good.  Look for it.  Everywhere. 

IThis is lengthy enough, and I�m not sure but what you might want to keep seeing the conflict, so I won�t go into it now.  But, if you sincerely seek to resolve the conflict you see between the verses you mentioned, I think I can help.  Just let me know.