Respect Others Please!

 "O people! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. The noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the best in conduct�" (49:13)

 Imam Ja�far al‑Sadiq (a) reported from the Prophet (s) who said: "Whoso­ever possesses in his heart 'asabiyyah (prejudice in any of its forms) even to the extent of a mustard seed, God will raise him on the Day of Resurrection with the (pagan) Bedouins of the Jahiliyyah (the pre‑Islamic era).�

[Al‑Kulayni, al‑Kafi, vol. 2, bab al �asabiyah, p. 308, hadith # 3]

I have seen posts on this forum lately such as;

- "are you scared that people would call you a lunatic?" (personal attack, name calling)

- " We ahlul-sunnah believe that all sahaba remained faithful unlike your cult who believes that all sahaba(99%) became renegades..." (typical school-yard name calling)

- " Look at this guy acting so smart and piouse. Come out of the darkness man..." (personal attack, insulting)

- " Even Ahmadi cult use our hadith the same way shia do." (prejudical, name calling (from someone who is not Ahmadi, and vehmently disagrees with them as well)).

All these posts have taken place within a 48 hr. time period. With mudslinging like this coming so fast and furtious, one can only imagine what future posts will bring.

This is even more suprising, as these inflammatory comments have been directed at posting which reflect the views of MAIN STREAM, 12er Shiism (or the Ja'fari Mathhab, if you prefer), which is accepted as a fifth Mathab by the vast majority of Sunni's worldwide (and the Grand Mufti of Al-Azhar University).

I am quite sure of the non-mainstream school of thought to which these comments belong, however, I will put this aside for now. I do request, however, that other members of this forum would also express their opinions regarding such behavior. In addition, I would request that the administrators of this site take a look at where these comments are coming from, and decide if this is the type of discussion that is encouraged in this forum.

REGARDING OBEDIENCE TO THE AHL'AL BAYT.

There are numerous Hadith for numerous sources. Here is just another to add to the discussion

" Abul Qasim Ja'far b. Muhammad reported to me from his father, from Sa'd b. Abdillah, from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. Isa, from al-Hasan b. Mahboob, from Hisham, from Murazim who reported from al-Sadiq, Ja'far b. Muhammad, peace be upon him, who reported that:

The Prophet, peace be upon him and his progeny, said: "What has happened to some people in my Ummah, who become cheerful and jubilant when Ibrahim and the progeny of Ibrahim are mentioned to them; but when I and my progeny are mentioned, they detest it and frown at it! By He Who sent me as a truthful Prophet, if a person dies after having performed the (good) deeds of 70 Prophets, but he has no liking for the authority of our Ahlul Bait, Allah will not accept his obligatory or voluntary acts of worship."

dear Ali Zaki

it is good to point out any bad language. i hope that you would be doing this job within your own group too.  i have not read any language dirtier than the language that shia have used in their litrature for Umar (RA) and Aisha (RA).  i hope that you would be fighting against all the dirty words in shia litrature.

dear Ali Zaki

wait wait wait. which hsitory is agreed to by both sunni and shia?  the history told to us by shia?  no no no.

history tels us that the Holy Prophet peace be upon him himelf orderded Abu Bakar (ra) to be imam in masjid-e-nabvi.  and i am sure that what was the meaning of beeing imam in that masjid at that time.  and once even prophet peace be upon him intended to pray behind Abu Bakar (ra) but Abu Bakar (ra) did not let it happen.

by the way, do you realy understand the meaning to Ahly AlBayt?  in Quran Allah mentions about Ahly AlBayt of Nooh (as). who were they?  i tell you.  Aisha (ra) was more of Ahly AlBayt than Ali (ra).  Allah mentions in Quran about Abu Bakar (ra) with the title of  "THE COMPANION".  is there any other companion mentioned by Allah like this.  Ali (ra) gave his daughter in marriage to Omer (ra).  i read in one of your books that Ali (ra) had so much knowledge that actualy he was the teacher of Ambiya (as).  Astaghfirullah.  if he had this much knowledge then why did he give his daughter to Omer (ra) who in you books in munafiq (Astaghfirullah).

is this all the history that is agreed upon?

you mentiond that some people opposed Prophet peace be upon him secretly and Allah will bring that truth to us.  by the way who told you that secret that no one else other than the shias knows even before Allah has brought that "truth" to us?

a well wisher

Bismillah

Wa'alaikumu Salaam Br Ali Zaki,

Without intending to add any fuel in the fire, i'd like to add that although i have some shia acquaintances, i've always wondered why, quite frequently, they attribute more attention to Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) than to Muhammad (may Allah's peace be upon him) himself.

Some of the sayings of the Prophet are re-attributed as sayings of Ali (and there is no doubt that he might have ben citing the Prophet, of which there is often no mention).

Ali (may Allah reward him) is well accepted and very much respected by Muslims, whereas Shia strictly refuse to give names like Abu Bakr, or Umar to their children.

I have always been, not so much ignorant, as uninterested to study details of shiah thought especially when widely practiced acts of self-beating are self-explanatory.

Why divide when our God is same and the Prophet (peace be upon him) is the same... so sad.