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number41
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The Quran is above all a guide to those who are prepared to keep their naturally pure state intact. Taqwa has been described as the single most important quality of a person mentioned in the Quran. Those who possess it live the natural way, the Quranic way. The word Sunnah means method, example or path. It refers to what our beloved Prophet (pbuh) said, did and agreed to. You need to study the Sunnah, to see how beautiful an example our beloved Prophet (pbuh) set in all the full and varied aspects of his life. As you follow the course of his life, you cannot fail to see his complete trust and dependence on God, his truthfulness and sincerity, his constant devotion and struggle to make the word of God supreme, his strength and wisdom, his compassion and concern for the human condition.
The Prophet�s Sunnah, emphasizes the natural needs and dispositions of every human being. The Quran makes this clear, Surah 7. al-A`raf: The Elevated Places, (verse 157): He will enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him: they are the successful. We need to know the Sunnah to learn how to perform the major duties like Salaat, Fasting and Hajj. To such acts of worship, there can be no addition or subtraction from the Sunnah. Moreover, without the Prophet�s detailed instructions and example, we would not be able to follow the Quran in all respects. The Quran tells us that Muslims are those who use consultation to manage their affairs. The Sunnah shows us how this was and can be done. We need to know from the Sunnah not only what the Prophet did, but why he did it and how he did it. You may form you own judgment on an issue only if there is no relevant text in the Quran and the Sunnah and only if your judgment does not go against the Quran and the Sunnah. When these conditions are met, you are expected to use you own judgment and initiative. Edited by number41 |
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QheQ
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Ok, let me admit and try to be in a more learning stance. Just please clarify why Hadith should be believed as authentic in the presence of the following Quranic assertions: 1. Indeed this is the saying of the prophet 2. (45:4-6): Then which 'hadith' after Allah and His verses do they believe? 3. (47:24): Then do they not ponder over the Quran... Waiting for the answer. Regards I got this response: The Quran is above all a guide to those who are prepared to keep their naturally pure state intact. Taqwa has been described as the single most important quality of a person mentioned in the Quran. Those who possess it live the natural way, the Quranic way. The word Sunnah means method, example or path. It refers to what our beloved Prophet (pbuh) said, did and agreed to. You need to study the Sunnah, to see how beautiful an example our beloved Prophet (pbuh) set in all the full and varied aspects of his life. As you follow the course of his life, you cannot fail to see his complete trust and dependence on God, his truthfulness and sincerity, his constant devotion and struggle to make the word of God supreme, his strength and wisdom, his compassion and concern for the human condition. The Prophet�s Sunnah, emphasizes the natural needs and dispositions of every human being. The Quran makes this clear, Surah 7. al-A`raf: The Elevated Places, (verse 157): He will enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him: they are the successful. I do not disagree with this. My point is simply that according to Quran, Quran itself is the word of Prophet Muhammad, hence the source of sunnah in the sense you described is Quran. There is only one source of Sunnah, that is Quran. You wrote: We need to know the Sunnah to learn how to perform the major duties like Salaat, Fasting and Hajj. To such acts of worship, there can be no addition or subtraction from the Sunnah. Moreover, without the Prophet�s detailed instructions and example, we would not be able to follow the Quran in all respects. If the Quran is describing the Salaah, the Hajj and other obligations in a different way than Hadith does, why follow the Hadith. For instance, Quran says: WA DHAKARASMA RABBIHI FASUALLA (And recalled the attributes of his rabb, hence offered the Salaah) so the salaah is clearly only the rememberence of His characteristics (names) The Quran tells us that Muslims are those who use consultation to manage their affairs. The Sunnah shows us how this was and can be done. We need to know from the Sunnah not only what the Prophet did, but why he did it and how he did it. If you ask yourself what consultation means, you will find the most sincere answer from within yourself, I hope. You may form you own judgment on an issue only if there is no relevant text in the Quran and the Sunnah and only if your judgment does not go against the Quran and the Sunnah. When these conditions are met, you are expected to use you own judgment and initiative. I would like to see such an example that Quran DOES NOT cover clearly. And if there is even a single such instant, then the Quran's claim of being "Mufassil" (detailed - 12:111) is wrong. Edited by QheQ |
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Andalus
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This is vague. What are you trying to prove exactly? Please provide an argument to support your conclusion which deal with this vague statement you are putting forth.
What about it? You want me to provide you with something but you have not provided even a basic argument as to what problem you have with this verse or even what you are trying to conclude.
I am waiting for your question.
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superme
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I think you quoted the above coloured statement incorrectly. Down here you repeated again with emphasis.
I think the coloured word is Rosul instead of Prophet. Please correct me if I am wrong since I don't know what is the source you are refering, sound like coming from chapter 67. Plus I am very certain there is no Muhammad mentioned in it. |
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BMZ
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Regarding Laa Raib or Laa Raiba, it simply means No Doubt. An Arab scholar or a good scholar of Qur'aan will not read it as "No doubt". Let me show you by way of examples: First, the verse as it is: Zaa-li-kal-kitaabo, laa raib." Let us translate now and see how many ways can we do it. 1. This is the Book, there is no doubt in it. 2. This Book has no doubt in it. 3. No doubt, this is the Book. 4. Without any doubt, this is the Book. 5. Of course this is the Book! What is the correct meaning of this verse? There is no doubt that this is the Book from Allah, or simply Of course this is the Book (from Allah) BMZ Edited by bmzsp |
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minuteman
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Yes, very correct, BMZSP, the meaning is as suggested with a slight change from myself. '(This is) That book, in which there is no doubt." But the last part (Fee he) sometimes can be connected to the remaining (or the following words too). (It is ) That book in which there is no doubt. It is a guidance for the God fearing people. (It is) That book, no doubt. There is guidance for the God fearing people. Forgive me if there is any mistake. The meaning of Dhalika is "That". It points to a distant or higher level object, compared to hadha (This).
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BMZ
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You are right, minuteman. I had the poster's thoughts in my mind, so I did not go into finer details. Thanks indeed. Salaams BMZ |
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QheQ
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Quite sincerely, being unable to access the net at home, i have difficulty posting replies to so many people. I humbly request any one, preferably the most knowledgeable one to continue the dialog, say Mr/Ms Andalus or someone else.
Will touch back soon |
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