Tareeqah warning

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   salam alaikum to all

I am very anxious about this matter.if it has passed forgive me, if it hasnt then please be all ears.
i am sorry and forgive me if any of brothers will be not happy.
Mysticism is very widespread here and tareeqah means "the way to reach Allah"
it is off the right road.They have some sheikhs in some known places, known as takkeh zaawiyah, and they who wants to reach Allah go to them and learn some systematic ways.Their philosophie named as misticism.They think and say that it is coming from the time of our prophet Muhammad(SAV), wrongly.�t is coming from other old wrong religions,(you can also see a kind of it in star wars) from the east(for example budism).it means kill the ego torture it, then reach to...
For about two or three hundred years after prophet of Allah, Mohammad (SAV), followers of his sunnah (Ahl-i Sunnah),learned men, prevented it.But after them it has become common.
Hz.Muhammad (SAV) is ordering that "Everything which is included to the religion later on is "bid'ah", and every "bid'ah" is an aberration."(so it is a term,bidah)
what does it mean to reach Allah?How can it be possible, it is like hinduism.
in another hadith Mohammed(SAV) says that imam Mahdi who will come just before Jesus alaihissalaam will end all bid'ahs.
they are taken like normal but i swear on it, it is an aberration.i have seen a topic like it and wanted to warn you.if you see some systematic ways like them dont follow them.if you follow the sunnah, Quran, you will never on a wrong way.Read hadiths and i wish the source of hadith will be grown up in your language.Be aware from the sheikhs, tareqaats, misticism, zawiyahs.
By the way i didnt want to mean bad things about my brothers, but that idea.and forgive me this is an english which is my special i hope you understand it inshaAllah.

Edited by ahmad179

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ahmad179 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 07 July 2007 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote ahmad179 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Tareeqah warning Posted: 11 July 2007 at 2:47am
	salam alaikum to all I am very anxious about this matter.if it has passed forgive me, if it hasnt then please be all ears. i am sorry and forgive me if any of brothers will be not happy. Mysticism is very widespread here and tareeqah means "the way to reach Allah" it is off the right road.They have some sheikhs in some known places, known as takkeh zaawiyah, and they who wants to reach Allah go to them and learn some systematic ways.Their philosophie named as misticism.They think and say that it is coming from the time of our prophet Muhammad(SAV), wrongly.�t is coming from other old wrong religions,(you can also see a kind of it in star wars) from the east(for example budism).it means kill the ego torture it, then reach to... For about two or three hundred years after prophet of Allah, Mohammad (SAV), followers of his sunnah (Ahl-i Sunnah),learned men, prevented it.But after them it has become common. Hz.Muhammad (SAV) is ordering that "Everything which is included to the religion later on is "bid'ah", and every "bid'ah" is an aberration."(so it is a term,bidah) what does it mean to reach Allah?How can it be possible, it is like hinduism. in another hadith Mohammed(SAV) says that imam Mahdi who will come just before Jesus alaihissalaam will end all bid'ahs. they are taken like normal but i swear on it, it is an aberration.i have seen a topic like it and wanted to warn you.if you see some systematic ways like them dont follow them.if you follow the sunnah, Quran, you will never on a wrong way.Read hadiths and i wish the source of hadith will be grown up in your language.Be aware from the sheikhs, tareqaats, misticism, zawiyahs. By the way i didnt want to mean bad things about my brothers, but that idea.and forgive me this is an english which is my special i hope you understand it inshaAllah. Edited by ahmad179

Abu Mujahid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 14 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Abu Mujahid Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2007 at 10:41am
	Well said brother Ahmed. Tariqa is nothing but real innovation. It has fake pillars in America led by a man called Kabbani. He is full of his own claims. His commodity fail to sell. Keep up the good work though I'm afraid soon they will censor you at will. Turkey need people like you to clean up this unholly alliance of Tariqa with secular forces. Abu Mujahid
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rami Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Male Joined: 01 March 2000 Status: Offline Points: 2549	Post Options Post Reply Quote rami Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2007 at 5:48pm
	Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem Abu Mujahid you are guilty of slander on more than one occasion, In islam BR if you dont know slander is a very serious sin and you will be asked about everything you said against others.
	Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.

Abu Mujahid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 14 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Abu Mujahid Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2007 at 10:16pm
	Rami Cool down. Talking about bidah people is not backbiting (qeebah) nor slander as you know in Islam. You were doing same regardless but no one found guilty. Kabbani books and website speaks volume about his unwarranted belief. Check it out and defend Islam in peace. May Allah show us the right path. Abu Mujahid Edited by Abu Mujahid
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rami Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Male Joined: 01 March 2000 Status: Offline Points: 2549	Post Options Post Reply Quote rami Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 July 2007 at 6:56am
	Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem My comment was about your insult towards the moderators, slander is against the forum guidelines so next time you ask why your post is being moderated keep in mind that the matter is clearly beyond your understanding since you dont even perceive that you slandered anyone.
	Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.

Abu Mujahid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 14 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Abu Mujahid Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 July 2007 at 8:30pm
	I thought first that way but I said it can't be. It seems my comments are causing you uneasy. Cool down. Moderators are not above critcs. Same moderators has censored/threaten me so many times without reason except I differ with them the Islam they want to sell to west. I was insulted, belittled and abused but didn't make you that big fuss. By saying they will censor you if you talk about Tariqa is not slander. You need to focus more on far damaging threads than my simple comments. May Allah show you the true nature of slander Abu Mujahid
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ahmad179 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 07 July 2007 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote ahmad179 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 July 2007 at 1:41am
	salaam alaikum actually it is considered too normal that i dont think it is going to be ended till Mehdi alaihissalam. sometimes i am feeling like a guest, lonely, but i know i am not lonely. i have learned a new hadith, here it is: "Someone who shows respect to them who has bidah, who praises their alives and deads, who knows them great, has assisted to demolish religion of islam and remove it from the world." (i tried to translate it i hope you can understand, it will be enough.) i witness that tasawwuf and its ways, tariqaahs are bidahs. Edited by ahmad179

rami Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Male Joined: 01 March 2000 Status: Offline Points: 2549	Post Options Post Reply Quote rami Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 July 2007 at 2:24am
	Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem Moderators are not above critcs. no one appointed you a critic, muslims investigate first then speak with conviction not throw out accusations hoping something sticks based upon limited comprehension of this deen. your posts regarding this topic are pure jahaliyah based on the writings of extremists, you have clearly shown in other topics that you do not care who you take your knowledge from. Same moderators has censored/threaten me so many times without reason except I differ with them the Islam they want to sell to west. I was insulted, belittled and abused but didn't make you that big fuss. By saying they will censor you if you talk about Tariqa is not slander. You need to focus more on far damaging threads than my simple comments. If you cant understand simple forum guidelines then the fault is all yours. You also suffer from waswasa since your acusations are solely based on asumptions, evil thoughts and your delusions of some grander pro tariqah conspiracy. Did it occur to you that if the Admins agreed with your assesment of the moderators they would get rid of them but yet we see they are still here and you are slandering them. Ahmad179 actually it is considered too normal that i dont think it is going to be ended till Mehdi alaihissalam. nothing you have said has any basis, how on earth can you speak about all tariqahs around the world being wrong have you investigated each and everyone of them have you visited each muslim country, town and spoken to all the shaykhs on earth....no but here you are ignorantly accusing all tariqahs around the world without any knowledge....subhanaallah you must have some knowledge of ghaib how else do you know the unseen and what is in people hearts. thanks for the fatwah ya shaykh we shall certainly take your opinion above that of the ulamah. Edited by rami
	Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.