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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 12:14pm

Gen Pervez Musharaff stepped in with good intentions to stabilize the country when it was going to the dogs. 

Most revered Master, I am delighted to find at least one man other than the US admin who can certify his intentions, I have never been some cell in his brain and am not privy to any such sacred info.

But I have a very special friend of mine. He is quite a fine writer and also an ex-army chap. He always asks me some very st**id questions and one these is:

Why didn't the General think of doing something for his country while he was still the Chief of Staff? And was bitten by the bug of Shaving the Nation only when he was legally removed from his post?

I am just a peasant and hold no real answer for him? Shall I pass you his address, you could deal with him or ask the CIA to put him on some rendition flight and rehabilitate him in Guantanamo Bay?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 12:34pm

The people of Pakistan are solely responsible for all their misfortunes today.They were responsible for electing the most corrupt leaders like nawaz sharif and the bhutto family.

Master of the Celestial oracles, I am more and more enamored by your wisdom. I am totally and in depth inspired by your words. Coulod I also have such a key-board that does all the thinking for you?

Great thought! All those Pakistani millions are absolute idiots unless and untill they vote only for persons only of the Master (or, his masters) choice.

Sir, what is your invention of this special democracy called?

Have you applied for the Patent?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by ak_m_f ak_m_f wrote:




Pakistani President Arrives in Jeddah

Jeddah, July 27, SPA -- Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and the accompanying delegation arrived here today on a visit to the kingdom. During the visit, he will perform Umrah
At the airport, he was received by Prince Khalid Alfaisal, Governor of Makkah Region, and other officials.

--SPA

Big freaking deal --from one US occupied territory to another! Birds of a feather flock together!

Put it another way --this is classic Mafiosos showing up at the front pews to fool themselves and the other in congregation after wreaking mayhem on the vulnerable folks.

 -- no shortage of pickpockets and criminals around Kaaba, this PR Umrah is such a farce that amounts to sacrilege.
You know so much about this dog, how was his Umrah around other rabid canine ( criminally charged by Paki gov't) in Dubai?
After all what brought him down to this low suddenly?
Is he is done with your Don/Peer in London?

seyd123 can respond cuz he mentioned Bhutto in his platitudes!

Nawaz's crime  was to fall for this wolf Muchruff in sheep's clothing to COAS out of turn!

I will quote Abe Lincoln which is so poignant to the current thread "You may deceive all the people part of the time, and part of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time."



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 2:40pm
seyd123 can respond cuz he mentioned Bhutto in his platitudes!

Nawaz's crime  was to fall for this wolf Muchruff in sheep's clothing to COAS out of turn!
Their combined and the only crime was that they were not on the 90 approval list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 2:44pm

seyd123 can respond

Paa jee, why doesn't our teacher respond in those other strings? Or, even in this one?

(You think, he is waiting for the script?)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 2:50pm
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Brozer, been mucho ocupado for a few days. I have copied your great post to my Morshed from your part of the world. You don't need any reinforcements, but nevertheless, I am still posting some, just for old times sake!

Just in a few moments.


Pa mere
Your handling of this birdbrain would have been so much fun but alas nature of the thread is a downer!

These Mushites are pretty hard core but keep up the good work
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by syed123 syed123 wrote:

THE ROOT CAUSE FOR THE PRESENT SITUATION IN PAKISTAN IS THE NON COMPROMISING VIOLENT IDEOLOGY OF THE FANATICAL ELEMENTS..

PAKISTAN IS AN ISLAMIC STATE ON PAPER BUT WITHIN THERE ARE INNUMERABLE DIVISIONS BASED ON ETHNICITY,SOCIAL CLASS,REGIONAL AND LINGUISTIC DIFFERENCES .  

 I HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS MATRIMONIAL ADS IN WHICH PEOPLE CLEARLY SPECIFY THEIR MOHAJIR AND NON-MOHAJIR PREFERENCES.   PAKISTAN WITH ALL ITS SINDI-NON SINDI,PUNJABI-NON PUNJABI,MOHAJIR-NON MOHAJIR,BALUCH-NON BALUCH,SHIA-SUNNI CONFLICTS IS CLEARLY AN EXAMPLE OF A FAILED STATE ON THE PATHWAY TO  DESTRUCTION .

PROFESSING ISLAMIC VALUES IS ONE THING BUT PRACTISING THEM IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT BALL GAME.

The economic reforms by the Musharraf government totally reversed the situation ; now the economy is one of the fastest growing in asia. Pakistan foreign exchange reserves now exceed $15 billion, as against less than $1 billion when he took office. The foreign investment in Pakistan in the first 9 months of the 2006-2007 financial year have exceeded $5.0 billion. Per capita income of Pakistan in current dollars has more then doubled in the last 7 years and expected to exceed $1000 by 2008    

Today pakistan is witnessing a  a fight between radical extremism and moderation. It is a fight between fundamentalist Pakistan and modern Pakistan. This incident, seemingly localized, reflects the greater struggle that Pakistani society has recently been witnessing. The Lal Masjid issue is only the tip of the iceberg. The entire fate of the Pakistani society hangs in the balance; will Pakistan plunge into the darkness of religious fundamentalism or will the moderate voices prevail?


Seems like you have a bad habit of taking a snooze over Caps Lock that amounts to violation in our forum.
Your Peer in uniform and  Don in London are responsible for the most divisions in Pakistan today
The MQM's yearly Muharram party in a city park next door, the organizers frown upon unwitting  non Urdu speaking  partaking in their lunger.

The day I found this out it became proof positive that the diseased minds that came to Pakistan from Indian provinces and onward to the western world.
How anything good can come out of the man born in Delhi who has filled the Gitmo prison with Pakistanis for $s.
Seems like you conveniently overlooked the Muchruff's loot where you got your economic data(ie Wikipedia) which goes as follows: He also comes from a so called syed lines how funny!
He comes from a lower middle class family; his father, Syed Musharrafuddin, worked for the foreign ministry as a clerk in the Pakistan Embassy in Turkey. He spent his early years in Ancara from 1949 to 1956 and speaks fluent Turkish. Musharraf is married to  Sehba, who is from Okara; they have one son, Bilal Musharraf who is a graduate student at Stanford University and is responsible for investing the billions of dollars for his family, and
Where did he get those billions?
Proves that he is the new Don of Hindi Mafia!

Is it any wonder the Americans would not let a non natural born constitutionally to be the POTUS !

Your $15 Billion of foreign reserves;
How about the same amount added on to the foreign debt which is still climbing @ $43Billion during Muchruff dictatorship, what gives?

Have you checked the suicide rate of the indigent folks lately?

Per capita $1000,
 tell these fellas to not to  spend that at one place,  $2.73 per day, How pathetic your platitudes can you get? That is what a Big Mack meal will run in Karachi.

The rate of inflation in Pakistan is running at double digit these days, Isn't that nice for the enlightened guys?

When US had double digit inflation during Carter's admi'n; he was shown the door by the American electorate after his first term!

Haven't they have sold off all the big utilities and pocketed the loot,the steel mill's sale to the Indian Mittal's conglomerate  was held up by the Chief Justice and firing fiasco was there for all to see!

Which electorate will opt for such thugs except boneheads!

Who in that country would house n  feed 4000 students this so long?
As Bro Sasha is wondering why the Mushites are avoiding the responses to the arguments
and I second that!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2007 at 8:58pm

First of all iam not a Mushite as some in this forum have claimed.

All i can say about Gen Pervez Musharaff is that he came to power with the best of intentions and at a very difficult time and  has managed to avoid a lot of landmines on his committed path of taking pakistan out of the mess it currently is.On the way he has made definitely a few blunders like the chief justice fiasco etc .   

Iam an ordinary member of the Ummah trying to understand the mindset of the religious radical elements who are bent upon taking the country to destruction by their destructive acts.

Trying to make peace with benazir or nawaz sharif is the right strategy in order to save pakistan from total destruction by the religious fanatics who have orchestrated the whole Lal masjid fiasco.          ; ;          There will be a  dangerous power vacuum if he decides to suddenly relinquish power and Gen Musharaff as a true patriot will never do that until a viable alternative is in place.

 At the same time there is no better alternative as far as my limited understanding and analysis of the whole situation in pakistan is concerned.       For all the rhetoric and personal attacks on me by some of the esteemed members of this forum, not a single person has suggested an viable alternative and pragmatic solution to the current mess.         & amp; nbsp;         & amp; nbsp;     May Allah grant the misguided and ill-informed elements of the Ummah  to the right path and give them the ability to think as visionaries and pragmatists .

Ameen

 



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