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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 7:55pm

There will be a  dangerous power vacuum if he decides to suddenly relinquish power and Gen Musharaff as a true patriot will never do that until a viable alternative is in place.

Master, this does sound a bit like what Washington is trying to sell not just about Iraq, but about any place where they have their man.

Brilliant! Though, for just a few moments, I had taken it as a most original thought.

Do you generally suffer from dictator addiction or is this one the only exception?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 8:13pm

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Brother, is it any use flying so many words in our guest's direction? And, with all that hardcore factual stuff?

He is infatuated with two things. First, obviously, with the greatest general the world could have ever found, to get Pakis killed and at such a convenient per capita rate.

Second; with his key-board. He keeps on keying in, without any thought and also without ever reading any posts. Has he ever responded to any of your points. He posts sermons and just some script. Does it matter if it's relevant or not?

I don't mind if even you sign him up as your morshed, I told you he is absolutely innocent. If he werent so innocent, won't we find some content at least in any one of his posts?

Let's just enjoy him, he is such fun.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 8:26pm

Firstly  i would like to congratulate minuteman for his mature post.

With respect to Whisper and all his cronies let me tell you my dear friends you are living in a fool's paradise. 

With all your sarcastic and immature comments you are not only  wasting your own time but also trying to mislead people with your shortsighted and inaccurate portrayal of reality.

We are in very delicate times and need to take pragmatic steps instead of getting bogged down in self made  unfortunate fiascos like the  Lal masjid tragedy.

Meaningless rants and sarcastic taunts are not the solutions .

The whole purpose of this forum atleast in my view is to try to discuss the current events and topics affecting the Ummah.

We can all agree to disagree without losing track of trying to explore meaningful soulutions.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:27pm

We can all agree to disagree without losing track of trying to explore meaningful soulutions.

Morshed, somewhere in my previous posts, I had requested you to come up exactly with that: solutions. But, we haven't had any on the table even on the third day of that post.

Let me also assure you that this is an extremely mature forum and no one has any cronies, here. Non of us is infatuated by anyone or even by any particular idea.

With respect to Whisper and all his cronies let me tell you my dear friends you are living in a fool's paradise.

What a great delight to be found as neighbours! Shall we exchange phone contacts and then one day you could drop in for a pecan pie.

We are in very delicate times and need to take pragmatic steps instead of getting bogged down in self made unfortunate fiascos like the Lal masjid tragedy.

This no self made fiasco. It was crafted over years of misrule, by the army junta sold to shooting their own people and just for a few peanuts.

I love your style, you seem to champion the umma in the exact same breath in which you condone an army killing their own people. What's it? Nervousness at losing criminal MQM hold on that country in the wake of fresh events?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:30pm


Bilal Musharraf is a Senior Associate at ePlanet Ventures focusing on investments in China, Pakistan, and India. He is a 2007 dual degree MBA/MA(Education) candidate at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and the Stanford University School of Education.

Like anybody else he is trying to make his living like everybody else here in a capitalist economy.I dont think there is anything wrong with that.

With regards to the privatization of the Steel mill i will expose all the lies and fallacies written by Sign *reader in my forthcoming post.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:31pm

And, whenever your lines show as the official Washington propoganda script, my friend, I hold the courage to remind you of that.

Thus far you have come with nothing original other than your disregard for the right of Pakistanis to chose their government. What a beautifully fascistic idea!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:51pm

With regards to the privatization of the Steel mill i will expose all the lies and fallacies written by Sign *reader in my forthcoming post.

Who are you accusing of lying here?

Have you read the Supreme Court of Pakistan judgement on the steel mills case? The same very case that made Shortcut Aziz mega nervous and, partially, led to the C J's bullying at the camp office.

Either you are too young or simply too naive to face the reality of any situation. Let's now come to the nuts n bolts. What do you know about anything going on in Pakistan - in actual reality, not through the State Department scripts.

Get your instructions from your bosses and please post those facts n figures about the steel mills fiasco.

We are all waiting for your next sermon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:54pm

For all those misguided individuals and rightwing fanatics  and their followers  i appeal to them to atleast cast a brief  glance at the life of our beloved Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and borrow some lessons of life from it

Throughout the first thirteen years of his Mission, Prophet Muhammad preached in Makkah, but it was in the face of bitter opposition from the Makkans. When it became impossible for him to stay there, he left for Madinah. Wars were waged against him, but he showed his antagonists that the power of peace was far greater than that of war. The peace treaty of al-Hudaybiyyah is a clear example of this, when the Prophet agreed to every demand his antagonists made on the sole assurance that peace would subsequently prevail.

The Prophet�s own modesty, coupled with great strength of character, is depicted in a well-known story of an old Makkan woman who hated the Prophet. Every morning when the Prophet passed by her house, she would empty a basket of rubbish on his head from the upper story of her house. He never once remonstrated with her about this. One day, when the Prophet passed through this area, no rubbish fell on his head. Thinking that the old woman must be ill, he went upstairs to inquire how she was, and found her ill in bed. When she discovered that the Prophet had come to see her, she began to weep, "I ill-treated you, and now you come to inquire after my health!" Ultimately, she became one of his followers. What strength of character, what patience and tolerance the Prophet evinced in refusing to be provoked, preferring rather to show kindness and magnanimity to one who had wished him ill

His life�s experience ranged from penury to prosperity, from defeat to success, yet whatever the degree of well-being or hardship, he steadfastly trod the path of moderation. At all times and right till the end, he remained a patient and grateful servant of the Almighty, bringing his message of peace and tolerance to mankind.

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