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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2007 at 9:46am
Very good links!
When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:02am
Originally posted by seekshidayath seekshidayath wrote:

I have two links here. I wish our bros, AK_M_F AND Syed 123 go thru them.


http://icssa.org/article_detail_parse.php?a_id=1145&rel= 1140,1137


http://www.icssa.org/article_detail_parse.php?a_id=1140& rel=1137



so who kidnapped the students?
who fired on their parents?
who burned the Gov building?
who illegally occupied children's library? & making mosque on illegally occupied Lands?


Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al-Shaikh has declared the jihad launched by ghazi brothers as fake.

its all for political motive and power; this is what mullahs want from day one.

I agree with Iqbal here :"Deen-e-Mullah fee sabeel-Allah FASAD"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RrKEaOeZs2o

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j5s8vn9mKZs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1yIaCB9q5ng

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bTE6IVd0Jdw

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:05am
The Lal Masjid I knew

by
Adnan Gill

Many moons ago, I remember looking at the Lal Masjid through the holes in the wall of my junior school, right across the Masjid. Sometimes I would stair at the Masjid for minutes at a time while hanging upside down on the monkey-bars. Sometimes, during the dog days of summer, I used to take refuge in the Masjid from the scorching heat, which was always delightfully cool as the sun would shine through its greenly tinted windows. For some reason, I always found it to be a very peaceful place. I can't remember if it was always painted red, but when I close my eyes, I see it white. In good old-days we used to call it �Jamma Masjid�.

In those days, during the regular prayers, barely a row or two used to fill with the devoted worshipers. Even the regular shoppers from -- then known �Jumma Bazaar� -- �Itwar Bazaar� used to barely make a dent in the attendance. However, Jumma prayers always attracted large crowds. So did the Eid prayers. In those golden days, I never remember the Imam issuing calls for Jihad or physical violence. The sermons always focused on the peaceful teachings of the Koran and life of Mohammed (PBUH). When and who transformed the Masjid into a symbol of extremism is not known to me. Luckily, I left Islamabad before the Masjid took a turn for the extremism. At least, I can still revert back to the nostalgic days of Jamma Masjid when the worshipers were more concerned about each other's well-being than the length of their beards.


Fast forward to late 80s. I remember meeting a young and joyful man in the Northern-Areas, which some say depicts the heavens. I still remember exchanging pleasantries with that young man on the lush green lawns of an Army mess as the �Megrib� time fell upon us and as the flying-squirrels started their air-ballet gliding from a tree to tree. I will never forget the time I spent with that young and brave man under the clear blue skies of the Northern-Areas. That young man's name was Captain Haroon Islam. Yes, I am eulogizing Shaheed Colonel Haroon Islam who gave the ultimate sacrifice while breaching the walls of Lal Masjid in an effort to secure the innocent lives of our children stuck inside the Masjid whose Imam time and again refused to order his impressionable students to leave the Masjid; unless, the government agreed to issue him and his mother a full-amnesty. In other words, he was willing to exchange blood of innocent children with a free get-out-of-jail card.

Who is to be blamed for radicalizing, the once, peaceful Masjid to the point where so many innocent lives have been lost is a matter for another debate, but we need to make it loud and clear; that no more we will allow another Imam to brainwash our impressionable children so they can consolidate their power through an army of children. No more we will allow Mosques that are supposed to be places for warship and sources to cleanse one�s souls to become the hubs of extremism. No more we will allow the extremists to hijack our religion whose meaning, and message is peace and welfare for whole creation of Allah.


Let's not forget what the Qur'an has clearly declared:
Whoever killed even a single soul - except being a punishment of murder or that of spreading unrest in the land - is as if he killed the whole of mankind. (Al-Maaidah 5: 32)
Therefore, it is incumbent upon us to resist these radicals (who are spreading unrest in the land) with every fiber of our being so they can no longer corrupt and poison the pristine minds of our children.


Till we take such a strong stand against the extremists, these thieves of peaceful souls will continue hijacking the impressionable minds of our blossoming children, and more and more brave fathers will have to save these children with the gifts of their lives.


I hope, the next time I see the Lal Masjid I will not have to close my eyes to see the peaceful Masjid, I once knew. I also hope, the Masjid to be renamed to �Masjid-ul-Islam� in the memory of the Shaheed Haroon Islam, so we will always remember the price we had to pay to rescue our beloved children. Finally, I hope, the government will no longer get in the business of granting general-amnesties to the murderers of our children.


Rest well, rest well my friend Haroon Islam. May Allah bless you with every reward he has promised to a Shaheed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:09am
The two maulanas, Abdul Aziz and Abdul Rashid, have caused the death of over 100 people; the younger Maulana Rashid has perished too. Maulana Abdul Aziz would also have met the same fate had he not escaped from Jamia Hafsa camouflaged in a black burqa, the Madrassa uniform of the female pupils. Abdul Rashid and many young male students could not leave because they were not allowed to do so by the militants who were now in command of the Hafsa brigade.

After the exit and subsequent arrest of Maulana Aziz, the latter did make a half-hearted appeal to the Hafsa inmates to give up fighting, but nobody paid any heed. The direct negotiations with Maulana Rashid yielded no results. Reluctantly, the Operation Silence was launched to establish the government writ and to clear the Hafsa and Lal Masjid of the terrorist and extremist elements.

A peace agreement between the government and Maulana Rashid was never on. The government�s stand was very clear: the Operation Silence will be aborted only after the extremists holed up in Hafsa, including Maulana Rashid, had surrendered to the writ of law. Maulana Rashid on the other hand was insisting that he and his colleagues should be given a safe passage. The gulf between the two proposals was very wide. It was impossible to narrow it because Maulana Rashid did not want to face law under any circumstance.

Safe passage to where? The destination of safe passage was never mentioned in the negotiations, which were dragging on without reaching any purposeful conclusion. The term �safe passage� is generally used in the US and Europe by bank robbers, kidnappers and terrorists holding hostages and whose escape routes are blocked by the police. In exchange of the hostages, they demand vehicles or aircraft to get away from the law. However, the law has long arms and invariably catches up with the law-breakers, safe passage or no safe passage.

It is out of question that any country including those Muslim countries which practise Shariah would have welcomed Maulana Rashid and his accomplices. In their eyes Maulana Rashid despite being a maulana was a terrorist and a kidnapper. If Maulana Rashid had succeeded in entering another country, he would have been arrested and imprisoned for life or repatriated to Pakistan to face the law.
(What if he went to Afghanistan or Indian Kashmir?)

Maulana Rashid might have been contemplating safe passage to a place in FATA. Evidence is emerging that he had connections with people in that area. It would not be far-fetched to assume that he had links with the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The Taliban are mourning his death by killing innocent people and Al Qaeda has asked the people of Pakistan to launch jihad against the government. Maulana Rashid knew that his desire to take refuge in FATA was faulty because it would have left him and his partners at the mercy of their hosts, which was not a comfortable prospect. Therefore, he adopted a new line. He abandoned the demand for safe passage and instead asked for general amnesty for himself and his partners in extremism. At this late stage he also disclosed the presence of foreign militants in the Hafsa which added a new and dangerous dimension to the process of peace negotiations.

The government agreed to almost every demand for the sake of innocent lives that were entrapped in Hafsa. It agreed that Maulana Rashid would not be �arrested�, but confined to a rest house. He would not be made a butt of ridicule. However, the government unequivocally rejected the proposal of granting general amnesty to Maulana Rashid and his militant friends. The people who were involved in kidnapping policemen, Pakistani and Chinese citizens, arson, and killing of Lt-Col Haroon Islam would have to answer for the heinous crimes in a court of law. Maulana Rashid was at the brink of agreeing to these proposals and asked for ten minutes to reply to them. But those ten minutes never ended. The government was left with no choice but to take military action to establish the writ of law that had been badly damaged by the two maulana brothers.

It is a preposterous accusation that President Musharraf had sabotaged the agreement in order to push the military action. To be certain, there was no agreement at all, so how could it be sabotaged. There were only proposals which were floating between the two parties. In fact, President Musharraf in expectation of an agreement had postponed the operation by about two hours. When the operation was launched at 4am, it was nearly daylight, thus depriving the commandoes of the advantage of darkness.

The soldiers engaged in the �Operation Silence� have exhibited great patience and good judgment. A soldier is trained to use brute force to attain the goal and get it over with quickly. He is not trained to be diplomatic or be mild or hesitant. At Hafsa the commanders acted diplomatically, mildly and hesitantly and very rightly so. They kept on extending the deadline at regular basis. It was due to this strategy that 3300 young pupils, males and females, made their escape good before and during the operation.

A question arises why the two maulana brothers were hoarding arms and ammunition in the House of God. When and where they wanted to use it and for what purpose? It is obvious that they could not have conquered Islamabad with this sorry assortment of weapons. Most probably they were planning to unleash a reign of terror in Islamabad. A bomb blast or a suicide bombing or a burst or two of Kalashnikov at a busy market would have a horrible impact nationwide if carried out in the federal capital. The linkage of the two brothers with the Taliban and Al Qaeda does lead us to believe that they were planning subversive activities in the capital to pave the way for Talibanization.

President Gen Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz have both made declarations that never again the Lal Masjid like situation would be allowed to develop. The president has warned that no mosque or madrassa would be allowed to be used for militancy and terrorism. PM Shaukat Aziz has echoed the words of the president that attempts to use madrassas for promoting militancy and extremism would not be tolerated. Regrettably, declarations are not enough to stop the surge of extremism in Pakistan. Very concrete steps and honest commitment is needed to stop the virus bug of extremism from infecting the young and raw minds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:27am

Tracing the roots of the malaise




By Qazi Faez Isa


THE Lal Masjid incident is symbolic of the malaise afflicting Pakistan and has the potential of tearing the country apart. Understanding the affliction and how it came to spread in the body politic is the first step before administering a prescription.

The roots of the malady can be traced back to 1979, the events of this tumultuous year proved defining in the development of Muslim societies.

On February 1, 1979, Ayatollah Khomeini, spearheading the revolution, returned to Iran after the Shah fled. On April 4, 1979, the military government of General Ziaul Haq executed Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the elected prime minister of Pakistan. Whilst clergy rule in Iran had popular support, General Ziaul Haq�s anointment was a marriage of convenience between the military and the mullahs with little or no public support.

On November 20, 1979, Islam�s holiest site, the Kaaba, was taken over by heavily armed extremists, led by Juhayman al Otaibi. Juhayman alleged that the ruling Al-Saud dynasty had lost its legitimacy having become corrupt, ostentatious and westernised. Armed intrusion into the holy site was made in the name of Islam, despite Quranic strictures against violence and bloodshed within the area of Al Masjid-Al Haram in Makkah.

Shah Khalid secured a fatwa (religious opinion) from the ulema after three days permitting the use of arms in the holy place, but the Saudi Arabian National Guards failed to regain control despite many casualties. The Saudi government then called upon the Pakistani forces stationed in Saudi Arabia for assistance. In the ensuing battle, 250 people died and 600 were wounded.

The Pakistani military action proved successful. Juhayman was killed and his fellow rebels who survived were handed over to the Saudi authorities. Except for one all 123 militants were publicly beheaded and their executions were broadcast live.

The only person released was the influential Mahrous bin Laden (Osama bin Laden�s half brother) who had assisted the rebels in smuggling weapons into Makkah in trucks belonging to the Bin Laden family companies. Guns were smuggled into the area of the Kaaba in coffins, and bullets came wrapped in dates.

On November 20, 1979, Ayatollah Khomeini stated in a broadcast that the United States of America was behind the seizure of the Kaaba. On November 21, 1979, an enraged mob in Islamabad, after a five hour siege of the US embassy, destroyed it. That day all security personnel in Islamabad had been deployed to protect General Ziaul Haq, who was taking a bicycle ride.

Juhayman distributed pamphlets (printed in Kuwait) entitled �Saba Rasail� (�Seven Letters�) outlining the basic tenets of his violent and extremist ideology. A similar ideology was espoused by those in control of the Lal Masjid. Islamic teachings should be employed to expose these flawed ideologies. The 1979 Makkah events demonstrate that even a small unknown extremist group can hold a state hostage and rupture society.

In December 1979 the Soviet military invaded and occupied Afghanistan. The US, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia came together to fight the Soviets and the Moscow-backed Marxist regime. Jihadis or Mujahideens were recruited for the purpose. Washington provided the weapons and training, Riyadh funnelled the money and Islamabad the crucial ground and logistics support. The outcome was a resounding success for the Americans as the only competing superpower keeled over and sank.

However, Pakistan did not benefit from this historic moment. Instead, the country was inundated with guns and heroin, and some in the army became fabulously rich. General Zia and his coterie also sought to perpetuate themselves and commenced the transformation of state institutions and the political landscape, digging their heels into the peoples� flanks after subjugating them.

Judges of the superior judiciary were required to take an oath of loyalty to General Zia. The independence of the judiciary was further corroded by creating a parallel system of courts, the three tiered Sharia courts. National unity and cohesion were ruptured by the duplicitous use of religion, and masquerading laws in Islamic terminology (Hudood, Qisas and Diyat Ordinances and Qanun-i-Shahadat Order), but which in fact parodied Islam. Zia divided society vertically and horizontally.The Constitution was amended and for the first time since the country�s creation, and contrary to all that the Quaid professed, separate electorates for Muslims and adherents of other faiths, were introduced.

National political parties were targeted whilst parochial, ethnic and regional parties were encouraged. Sectarian beliefs of citizens, too, became the business of the state. For instance, only those belonging to a particular sect were compelled to pay zakat. Zia�s religious mentors drew their religious inspiration from centres embedded in India, whose followers had openly opposed Jinnah and his Muslim League.

General Zia aligned himself with extremist forces to counter the challenge from mainstream political forces. He used the state�s security and intelligence apparatus to both support and create militant entities. He gave possession of the Lal Masjid land to the two brothers, who in the heart of the capital flouted the state and its laws. The brothers gained further strength when a stalwart of this government and son of the same army chief intervened to stop criminal cases being registered against them after illegal and prohibited weapons were discovered in their vehicle.

It was not surprising that Ejazul Haq was delegated to liaise with the two brothers, his father and he having created the phenomenon that they had become. GHQ, too, felt comfortable that the matter was attended to by the son of its former chief. But extremism spurned the favours that had been bestowed and Ejazul Haq failed miserably.

For Zia, the state always came second. Political forces were squashed whilst those brandishing guns (whether pseudo religious, ethnic, sectarian or tribal) were encouraged. This was without precedent; division and extremism is anathema to any state, government or authority. Extremism from the earliest times has plagued Muslim societies, but in our case the rulers themselves fed and encouraged it.

Members of a �puritanical� Muslim sect, that came to be known as the Kharijis, would murder anyone, including the companions of the Prophet (PBUH), whom they thought were not following the �true path�.

Abdul Rahman ibn Muljam struck a blow to Hazrat Ali�s head, cleaving his skull, in the mosque of Kufah during Ramazan in the 40th year of the Hijra. Four years earlier, the third caliph Hazrat Usman ibn Affan was quietly reciting the Quran at home when he too was murdered by a Muslim.

The Kharijis resolutely stuck to their extremist views making no concessions; self-righteousness, narrow vision, an obdurate mind and a constricted heart resulted in unbridled hate. This is the same attitude that one finds reflected in the mindset of the Lal Masjid brigade and all those who seek compulsion in religion, forgetting Quranic proscriptions to the contrary.

Stratocracy not only runs Pakistan but has become its principal thinker and strategist, however, regrettably without the prerequisite knowledge of Islam and history. Skewed doctrines like �strategic depth� that emanate from deep within the intellectual brain of the nation (the ISI) perish when put to the test. The extremist ideology and groups that General Ziaul Haq employed have begun to undermine the state. These very entities have come back to bite the hand that fed them. Former proxies are turning rogue; Zia�s instruments are now in business for themselves.

Extremists are committed to overthrowing the government and destroying Pakistan, but the government continues to live in a fool�s paradise and views the Pakistan People�s Party and the genuine Pakistan Muslim League as its enemies. Is it not time to openly invite the leadership of Pakistan�s two main political parties into the country to help develop national consensus against extremism and violence in all its forms (including its secular version that was witnessed in Karachi on May 12)?

Closeted in secret negotiations, bartering the state for personal benefits is abhorrent to the people. Citizens need to be involved and empowered to shake off the monster of extremism. Leaders with petty personal interests will not douse the suicide bomber�s determination to his cause.

The people of Pakistan want to know from General Musharraf, Shaukat Aziz, the military, ISI, et al, whether the legacy of General Ziaul Haq will continue to be honoured or will Pakistan and its people be placed first, since it has been irrefutably established that both are diametrically opposite.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 August 2007 at 9:11pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2007 at 1:13am

Yaar whatever links and material we post here, we should have at least sent a few saddest Birthday cards, yesterday, to the uniformed idiot-in-chief.

When we rule (in fact, misrule) like that that is exactly what happens. I was in Lahore February through the whole of April. This street gangster could have solved this matter in a human manner. He chose to play all of this up for his Washington gallery.

I love all our great scholars who need to display all their knowledge in volumes, quantity versus quality! I refrain from even asking them why a bird lays an egg, just for the fear of spending a whole few nights with them.

This whole thing was scripted after Dick Cheney's Islamabad visit and he had to design a problem just for no other reason than to show the U S that he is their solutions man in that poor country.

I promise all our dear and most interesting chaps (specially the ones who have run away from this thread) that the World will definitely go on and, possibly, in a far better way even after we have had his Quls.

He is the problem, not the solution.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2007 at 2:25am

He is the problem, not the solution.

199.999%   agree with ur this statment but just i would little ammend that not only this but every dictator is the problem not the solution when the coped the Gov't. 

 

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