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I have been reading to your Post and I am quite sure that you posses that knowledge in which the Almighty Allah bestowed on you. I was just wondering why you can't accept this very simple fact that the bases you had is not solid! therefore, it shouldn't be the source of proofs to be lay down.. what do think..?

analyze this fact..!!!

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      The foundation of our faith is unshakably strong as was demonstrated by the resurrection of Christ from the dead. As the writer of Hebrews says "Therefore receiving an unshakable kingdom, let us have grace, through which we may serve God well-pleasingly ..." (Heb, 11:28)

     Christ's resurrection life is indestructible. He is the greater Priest than Aaron, who arises "Who has been appointed not according to the law of a fleshy commandment but according to the power of an indestructible life" (Heb. 7:16)

     You are letting someone rob you when you accept their belief that the New Testament is so "tampered with" that you cannot build your house on the solid rock of the words Christ. "Everyone therefore who hears these words of Mine and does them shall be likened to a prudent man who built his house upon the rock. And the rain descended, and the rivers came, and the winds blew, and they beat against that house; and it did not fall for it was founded on the rock" (Matt. 7:24,25).

   So the eternal life of Christ in resurrection, His rock solid word, and His unshakable kingdom form a strong foundation for our trust. And Christ has said that His very words are so steadfast that they will outlast the physical universe itself.

 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall by no means pass away" (Matt. 24:35).

    And these assurances are not all. We who have received the Son of God also have His Spirit as the seal within, the pledge and "down-payment" so to speak. The Holy Spirit within us is the foretaste as a garuantee of a fuller taste to come:

 " ... in Him also believing, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of the promise, Who is the pledge of our inheritance unto the redemption of the acquired possession, to the praise of His glory" (Eph. 1:13,14)

  " ... the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed unto the day of redemption" (Eph. 4:30b).

 "He who has also sealed us and given the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge" (2 Cor. 1:22)

   God dispensed into us as the Holy Spirit is a pledge and a seal of the firm foundation upon which we have an unshakable kingdom constituted with the indestructible resurrection life of Christ, the One Whose words will outlast the physical universe. 

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Professor Stadlin says:  The entire Gospel of John was written by one of the students of the Alexandrian school. One sect, in the second century, rejected this Gospel and everything that was attributed to John. 

In the Encyclopaedia Britannica it says:  

As for the gospel of John, it is undoubtedly fabricated. Its author wanted to pitch two of the disciples against one another, namely St. John and St. Matthew. 

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    There is no competition between John's Gospel and Matthew's gospel. These accusations are raised by the ignorant who cannot comprehend that such a wonderful Person as the Son of God needs more than one biographical writing. This is like taking a photograph of a person from four different angles.

 Christ is rich and profound. We will be exploring His riches for eternity. John explores the ministry of Christ from one angle. Matthew from another angle examines this profound Person.

 They compliment each other. The work together to give us a fuller portrait. Your criticism that someone pitted the two gospels against one another is wrong.

 Matthew points out the high moral demand living in Christ's kingdom of the heavens. Then the Gospel of John establishes that Christ is Himself the life supply to enable man to meet the high demand of kingdom living.

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This writer who appears in the text claimed that he was the disciple who was loved by the Messiah, and the Church took this at face value and affirmed that the writer was the disciple John, and it put his name on the book, even though the author was not John for certain.

This book is like the books of the Torah, in that there is no connection between them and the one to whom they are attributed. We feel sorry for those who did their utmost to make the connection, between this philosopher who wrote the book in the second century, and the disciple John the fisherman, for their efforts were to no avail and with no guidance.

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      You can save your tears and your sympathy.

      What is more like a re-write of the Torah is the Quran which seeks to go back and establish a second Moses figure as another law giver.

    I have been very reluctant to say anything against Islam in any of my posts as you should witness. But now, the pretensions of your sympathy lead me to say that, Islam should be pitied as a step backwards to make another law giver, Mohammed to compete with Moses.

  And then there is the legend of how Moses was seen crying in one of the levels of heaven because Mohammed had more followers than he.

 This is a nonsensical thing for which you might be concerned. First of all if God were the ultimate goal of their seeking then why on earth would Moses be envious or crying that Mohammed led more people to God then he? He was not so small and petty a man.

  And nothing in the Old Testament indicates Moses was this kind of a petty jealous person. Rather when asked about competition by Joshua Moses said "Would to God that all Jehovah's people were prophets and that He would put His spirit on all of them."

   Moses saw the Son of God and did not rebel. He rejoiced.

   You have accepted a fiction that says all that New Testament which tells the truth about Jesus was "tampered with".  This is your wishful thinking.

 And Jocko is calling the writers of Encylopedia as ignorants. Please see.

 There is no competition between John's Gospel and Matthew's gospel. These accusations are raised by the ignorant who cannot comprehend that such a wonderful Person as the Son of God needs more than one biographical writing. This is like taking a photograph of a person from four different angles.

 We Muslims have not written those words. The learned people after examining have given their opinion about the gospel of John. We have our reservations too because that gospel is  much different to the other three gospels.

 Where is the word of God? Jesus himself has been made into a god. And we see that he (Jesus) as a god did not reveal anything to any disciple. He spoke to them all the time. Bible at the most is biography of Jesus. Not any spoken word of God.

================================ We Muslims have not written those words. The learned people after examining have given their opinion about the gospel of John. We have our reservations too because that gospel is  much different to the other three gospels.

 Where is the word of God? Jesus himself has been made into a god. And we see that he (Jesus) as a god did not reveal anything to any disciple. He spoke to them all the time. Bible at the most is biography of Jesus. Not any spoken word of God.

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  We just have a great difference here about the Bible.

  You pick and choose from it what you like which will reinforce your religion. That which you do not like you say was the result of "tampering".

  Learned men and scholars were also in the mob which cried out "Crucify! Crucify Him!"  You cannot always put your faith in man's wisdom which I pointed out is darkened since man was alienated from the life of God (Eph. 4:18).

  Then you say John is so different from Matthew, Mark, and Luke, so it cannot be the word of God. This is foolish.  We acknowledge that there is a difference.

 There is also a difference between Matthew and Luke. There are also differences, if not as great, between the three synoptic Gospels. God has the wisdom and the right to breath out three gospels of one united style and a fourth of a different style.

 This is not a wise complaint and should be dropped.

jocko... and  jasperstone, The replies of my bros.. in Islam are quite clear!!!! therefore no repeation is NEEDED..!

I will not waste my time and effort to let you realize how unfortunate your knowledge will be...  if you will not use it in a right way.

Regrets will be the prize for those heedless.  hope you will not be one of them.