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Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

both you, Jocko and Jasperstone have not responded to my post on page 21: 28 October 2007 at 5:30am, that took me a few days to put together.

Angel, I think I know the one you're talking about. It is really long. I do intend to go back and read it, but have been really behind on other things lately and haven't had time to devote to the forum. I hope you will be patient with me because I'm still behind, but I haven't forgotten.

You know, I was thinking of the long one in the other thread that starts, "A simple way to experience Christ....."

But I guess you are talking about the one in this thread that starts, "I did a little rearranging and put simialar paragraphs together and tried to stick with the order of dates..."?


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For if we, being enemies, were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, we shall be saved in His life, having been reconciled. (Rom 5:10)
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 Please discuss this subject in detail because it has a lot to do with the proper understanding of christainity. That is because the Jews and the Muslims do not believe in any begetting business. Only the christians have got it.

 Does god beget?? If he does then what does he beget? Does He always beget? Why does he beget? Is it begetting in the real sense of the words or only metaphorical/ symbolic?? Please elaborate. Thanks.

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Originally posted by JasperStone JasperStone wrote:

Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

both you, Jocko and Jasperstone have not responded to my post on page 21: 28 October 2007 at 5:30am, that took me a few days to put together.


Angel, I think I know the one you're talking about. It is really long. I do intend to go back and read it, but have been really behind on other things lately and haven't had time to devote to the forum. I hope you will be patient with me because I'm still behind, but I haven't forgotten.

yes its long.

And its fine, I do the same on occassions myself when there's much going on in that the forums take a back seat and then it takes a few days to catch up, lol!

Also there is a post of mine on page 19 that is for you to, its the only one of mine on that page, so it won't be hard to find.

Originally posted by JasperStone JasperStone wrote:

You know, I was thinking of the long one in the other thread that starts, "A simple way to experience Christ....."

But I guess you are talking about the one in this thread that starts, "I did a little rearranging and put simialar paragraphs together and tried to stick with the order of dates..."?

yes this one in this thread. You can if you want to, respond to my view on "a simple way to experience Christ". No rush I know you got other things to do.



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Originally posted by JasperStone JasperStone wrote:

Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Originally posted by JasperStone JasperStone wrote:

Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Just to let you, Jocko and jasperstone, I am not muslim  

I can tell. You sound atheist. Is that right?

No.


Oh. Sorry. I said that because of the time you said you couldn't worship God. So are you Hindu?

lol! No, too many gods to follow and to remember  no offence to hindus.

ah! what i said is that I could not worship a jealous God who gets angry & punishes people for not worshipping or paying attention to Him.

here is that thread: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10432&am p;am p;PN=2&TPN=1

 

hey BMZ.....I will bump up that thread of mine ok



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>>>>ah! what i said is that I could not worship a jealous God who gets angry & punishes people for not worshipping or paying attention to Him. <<<<<

What god in history doesn't?

BTW if you said that to a Hindu worshiper yes those comments are offensive. Hindus believe those thousands [or millions] of gods are avatars of the one God. Hindus believe that we cannot fully comprehend God [or Brahman] therefore God shows his divisible qualities of himself that is comprehensible to us. To pure monotheists, this is polytheism regardless whether those avatars are parts of God. Of course pure monotheist don't believe in parts of God just the whole.



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Israfil, I was talking about myself, ok ?

what god in history doesn't?

anyway about God being jealous is discussed in the thread God's law.

 

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Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

How is that suppose to be christian like - Christ like. And how is Israfil suppose to experience Christ if he doesn't believe in trinity or never joins the system. you don't make sense.

"religion of man" do you think you could explain, because this sounds like man has created the religion not God.

Hmm. I have to try to see your point of view to know how to answer you. I'm answering without fully understanding your angle. The word Christian means Christ-like. This term was first used soon after the Christ's resurrection. The term Christianity, however, came much later. It refers to the things man added to God's revelation concerning Christ, making a system of worship. Christianity does have God's revelation, but man's teachings and man's traditions have been added to God's revelation. Christ is a real and living person, not a system.


And how is Israfil suppose to experience Christ if he doesn't believe in trinity or never joins the system.

To experience Christ, one must believe in Him, the person, but one does not need to join any system. Tradition has tried to entangle the two; I prefer to stick to the pure word of God.

Note that I didn't say that a Christian doesn't need to be in the church. The New Testament does reveal the church, but the church in the New Testament is not the system of denominations that make up Christianity today. Just as Christ is a person, the church is the people, the believers. The system is neither Christ nor the church.


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  One does not join the church. I would underline what JasperStone has said. One is BORN "organically" into the church.

  You join a political party or a sorority. You may join a club. You may join the YMCA or join the Lion's Club, Rotary Club, or the Knights of Columbus.

 The true new testament church is not entered by joining in that sense. It is entered by a spiritual birth. By a life regeneration you are born into the Christian church.

 

I am a Christian Guest at this Moslem Forum - until otherwise informed. Hello!
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