"Of all the condescending insults. I could never understand. Just search for any forum here with the word Mormon in it and you see insult upon insult. Many respectable members have also left because of the insanity of the rules enforcements."
We regret those insults. If you remember, many times you were insulted, moderators, including me, were involved to help you; once a thread, started by a Muslim member, was closed when you objected that it was against your faith.
"BMZ, Andalus and the other Mods are not nearly as strict as you? Wonder why??? You enforce the rules arbitrarily and NO YOU DO NOT ENFORCE THEM UNIFORMLY OR THE QUESTIONS ON THE TRINITY FORUM WOULD BE CLOSED."
All moderators are unique and function in that manner, but we all have a common superior aim to make this forum a better place. We may have different ways or styles.
Due to time constraints and lack of moderators, I am not able to cover all forums. Sometimes I have not visited here for weeks. But, whenever I visit there and find anything in non-compliance I take steps. The best thing is to report when you see anything that violates rules.
Yes, I may appear strict. I am attached to IC not only from Dec 29, 2005. In fact, that was when I just visited the forum to see what was going on. When I saw the condition, I wanted to help it and didn�t leave. In fact I have been a member of the main web site for more than 5 years. So, it is like motherly love that I carry. . . . All mothers are different, isn�t it? And I am also a father in real life. . . . I have been more than a participant and moderator. . . .
"I disagree that the rules are enforced fairly. Explain the Saudi King, Pope forum being moved to INTRAfaith instead of INTERfaith...or left in Current Events since they are both MONARCHS of countries. Vatican City being a country if you didn't know."
I explained why I did what I did. I am not saying that I am perfect, and I also don�t state that what I did must have been correct. Only some of the things don�t seem to make sense, right? Why is there such an uproar over that? I am not a prophet. I am a human being. Have I not done any good thing here in my last 2 years. I don�t see any thread over that. May I ask why?
"This is ridiculous. If you look at ever single one of the complaints about threads being moved, closed and/or posters being threatened with being banned because they dared comment in the wrong section. Your name is attached. Not the other Moderators."
How do you know it is only me who is doing all these things ? We work as "Moderator Group." This has been explained before. We work together. Admin is there. IC management is there. The public at IC is there. I have told them to explain to me in our private meetings if I am wrong somewhere. The public doesn�t see all that. I also have the plan that the day I over step and make serious violations, I will ban myself. I am straight forward in my real life as well.
We receive numerous reports and Pms, and I am happy to say that most of the members at I C appear to be satisfied with what is being done here
Another thing is where did I threaten someone to ban? Please quote the post, and be specific. I have not used the word "ban" in any of my posts as far as I remember.
"You consider this a personal attack and threaten to ban me again. So be it, ban me."
You were never banned here. Where did I threaten to ban you? Please quote the post.
"You're a MODERATOR that is acting unfairly and its obvious to many that you go overboard and make arbitrary rulings that ARE NOT in the guidelines. The Pope is Christian, the Saudi King Muslim, where in your precious guidelines does that Make it INTRAfaith."
I have covered this issue before.
"Where in the guidelines does it say you have to close forums that are on different aspects of the same subject. If that were true, you would have to close every topic on Jesus's nature, proofs of Muhammed's prophethood and the history of Islam/Christianity that pop up in Interfaith because they've all been done before."
I have covered this as well.
"No, you can't do that because it would restrict that NATURAL flow of conversation. I'm not talking about saying whatever you want. Which is what the free speech rule is about. That rules INTENTIONS were to prevent trolls from insulting people, telling lies about faiths and flat out attacking posters. Which I might add is covered under other rules. It was not intended to restrict normal conversations between posters which is what you've been using it for."
We have tolerance at many levels here. Hundreds of threads have remained untouched where discussion goes on smoothly in all sections
"We have had many great and wonderful moderators who've managed to keep the spirit of this forum alive without slamming the lawbook down when they feel like it. If the rules were enforced uniformly, I would maybe be less inclined to complain...which is the TITLE of this section. But Non-Muslims are dealt with more harshly than recent reverts and Muslims. Even if that Non-Muslim like Servetus, DavidC, et al have show they understand the topic just as well as a recent revert or longterm Muslim. Belief and Understanding are two different things."
We try to enforce the rules uniformly. We are not perfect, though. Servetus, for example, has never been touched by any of us. I personally admire him, and he can be a good example for all of us the way he complies with rules.
"I have seen behavior from Sign*Reader (no offense to SR) be tolerated that would have gotten a non Muslim Banned. Whisper insults Americans with impunity...though I've finally learned most of its sarcasm on steriods, its hard for others to separate why that's okay, yet challenging Saudi justice systems is not okay. Wasi posted a NAKED picture and a lie about a Muslim woman on this site...both a violation of you GUIDELINES and of Quranic Law. Yet, its me who's being threatened with being banned."
Many Muslim members such as Hanan and Whisper were suspended for some time. Many Muslims have also been banned here. Many non-Muslims such as buddyman also continue to take part in spite of many violations.
Saudi justice system is currently being discussed in the Current Events section in the rape victim thread. If sectarian theological issues develop there, it will be moved to intra faith, even though I personally wish that that doesn't happen.
Moderators normally don�t ban people individually. Banning is a decision that is done collectively. At that level, admin or/and IC management get involved.
"You are not as fair and balanced as you think you are. And that is my complaint. And as a Moderator, I am making my complaint public so if I get banned...everyone knows WHY!"
With all due respect, I may have flaws. I will never deny that. As a Muslim and human being, it is my duty to strive to become a better person each day, and I do that by the grace of Allah. And insha Allah, I will do more in the future.
I have never used "ban" word in any of my 1400+ posts. Please quote me one post. Yes, some guidelines may say so, and there is a reason why they say so. Yes, I have warned many here. But, I have never warned you as far as I remember, and I appreciate that you came up openly in this thread. I like discussions. I don�t like name-calling and personal attacks.
We appreciate your participation here. I will be away now for some time.
May Allah guide us all.
Peace
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