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Cassandra
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PS. Moderators: Happy Eid to You all. I thought a long time before I decided upon this segment of the Forum in which to post my "Peace on Earth and Good Will to All" message. Personally, I consider Current Events" the right place. In Spanish there is a difference between the verbs Ser and Estar. Estar means "right now", whereas Ser is "Always": i.e. I think this is message for always perhaps more than "right now": i.e. it is "current". I like to believe that my message is "Para Siempre", that is "for always" so move me if you wish. It is just in the message of "Christmas" this is mine. C |
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Duende
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Reality check Cassie: my constant Libran search for equilibrium between
my soft inside and my hardened protective outerlayer had me reeling while reading your Christmas message. I don't want to rain on your parade, the cynic in me has become a definite Scrooge. I just want you and others who turn to these thoughts and wishes, in today's complex world, to think hard how the Black Water operative, sitting in his bunker, his 20 or so years of war hardened memories garnered in Somalia/Congo/the jungles of Colombia, considers them... watch the cynicism and utter hypocricy of the government representatives shaking hands with their enemies, wonder why, in a supposed 2000 years of history of Christianity the message of Jesus simply has reached a glass ceiling, permeating only the 'lower crust' and never breaking through to the 'upper crust' at least, never in any way more meaningful than on a personal level. I'm trying to point out that our desires to change the world are not new, they are as eternal as your Peace and Goodwill to All message, and this fact, its longevity and failure to materialise, makes me think there is something wrong about our thinking, our expectations and our strategy. Others, reaching my level of cynicism and hopelessness may reach for the guerrilla warfare guidebook or strap an explosive device to themselves and walk off with a different 'message', I tell you, I can fully understand them. But I haven't reached that extreme. Instead, I have been observing with a different 'angle', I ask myself, how come, in all the years of outcry, all the years of promises and pledges, we still live with the gaping wound that is Palestine in our midst? Why, despite overwhelming opposition are we now into year 5 of the Iraqi occupation? why, after the dot com bubble burst, after the housing collapse, after the Enron scandal, are the people of Africa still third class citizens in their own country? people say 'there's not the political will', but it seems to me it is precisely the political will which is preventing the solutions from flowering. I have come to the conclusion that 'They' are not st**id, that 'They' have hundreds of advisers and thinkers sitting in their 'think tanks' who must SURELY have had the same thought as me, or you, or anybody else, a thought which touched on a solution, and so I wonder Why has this or that not been done already? And this thought leads me to conclude that if They are NOT as st**id as we are convinced, then something much worse is happening: things are going just fine, thank you very much. Please watch Naomi Wolf on YouTube, for an inkling of what The Powers That Be are capable of. That you or I, Angela, Whisper, SignReader Herjihad or any number of anonymous people all around the world, regardless of culture, wish for Peace and stability and the realisation of our ideals is perfectly normal, and 'They' are happy for us to go on donating to the NGO's or forming new ones, 'They' are happy for donations for rebuilding Gaza to come flooding in, our generosity is boundless, just as theirs is constrained by 'Office'. There is an invisible demarcation line between 'Them' and the rest of us, and unless and until that line is breached, all of the beautiful children in the world shall grow up repeating our every step, and gaining no more ground than we have since your beloved Ghandi placed a bare foot on the dusty earth. Edited by Duende |
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Cassandra
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Study: Bushies Lied 935 Times to Sell Iraq Invasion By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith, The Center for Public Integrity. Posted January 24, 2008.
Bush and his top officials waged a campaign of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses. On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war. It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11 Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it. In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most false statements, according to this first-ever analysis of the entire body of prewar rhetoric. President Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Secretary of State Powell had the second-highest total in the two-year period, with 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Rumsfeld and Fleischer each made 109 false statements, followed by Wolfowitz (with 85), Rice (with 56), Cheney (with 48), and McClellan (with 14). The massive database at the heart of this project juxtaposes what President Bush and these seven top officials were saying for public consumption against what was known, or should have been known, on a day-to-day basis. This fully searchable database includes the public statements, drawn from both primary sources (such as official transcripts) and secondary sources (chiefly major news organizations) over the two years beginning on September 11, 2001. It also interlaces relevant information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches, and interviews. Consider, for example, these false public statements made in the run-up to war:
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Sign*Reader
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The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002, with congressional consideration of a war resolution, then escalated through the mid-term elections and spiked even higher from January 2003 to the eve of the invasion. (click for chart version) It was during those critical weeks in early 2003 that the president delivered his State of the Union address and Powell delivered his memorable U.N. presentation. For all 935 false statements, including when and where they occurred, go to the search page for this project; the methodology used for this analysis is explained here. In addition to their patently false pronouncements, Bush and these seven top officials also made hundreds of other statements in the two years after 9/11 in which they implied that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or links to Al Qaeda. Other administration higher-ups, joined by Pentagon officials and Republican leaders in Congress, also routinely sounded false war alarms in the Washington echo chamber. The cumulative effect of these false statements -- amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts -- was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war. Some journalists -- indeed, even some entire news organizations -- have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, "independent" validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq. The "ground truth" of the Iraq war itself eventually forced the president to backpedal, albeit grudgingly. In a 2004 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, for example, Bush acknowledged that no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq. And on December 18, 2005, with his approval ratings on the decline, Bush told the nation in a Sunday-night address from the Oval Office: "It is true that Saddam Hussein had a history of pursuing and using weapons of mass destruction. It is true that he systematically concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N. weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As your president, I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq. Yet it was right to remove Saddam Hussein from power." Bush stopped short, however, of admitting error or poor judgment; instead, his administration repeatedly attributed the stark disparity between its prewar public statements and the actual "ground truth" regarding the threat posed by Iraq to poor intelligence from a Who's Who of domestic agencies. On the other hand, a growing number of critics, including a parade of former government officials, have publicly -- and in some cases vociferously -- accused the president and his inner circle of ignoring or distorting the available intelligence. In the end, these critics say, it was the calculated drumbeat of false information and public pronouncements that ultimately misled the American people and this nation's allies on their way to war. Bush and the top officials of his administration have so far largely avoided the harsh, sustained glare of formal scrutiny about their personal responsibility for the litany of repeated, false statements in the run-up to the war in Iraq. There has been no congressional investigation, for example, into what exactly was going on inside the Bush White House in that period. Congressional oversight has focused almost entirely on the quality of the U.S. government's pre-war intelligence -- not the judgment, public statements, or public accountability of its highest officials. And, of course, only four of the officials -- Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz -- have testified before Congress about Iraq. Short of such review, this project provides a heretofore unavailable framework for examining how the U.S. war in Iraq came to pass. Clearly, it calls into question the repeated assertions of Bush administration officials that they were the unwitting victims of bad intelligence. Above all, the 935 false statements painstakingly presented here finally help to answer two all-too-familiar questions as they apply to Bush and his top advisers: What did they know, and when did they know it? Edited by Sign*Reader |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Angel
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Sign reader, since your posts from the 16 December 07, I'm wondering what have they got to do with Angela's plan ?
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MAHDI
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everybody that the one of Iraq, is a false one of lies, and was the invasion by I refuel and control of the zone, everybody that all the controls and intelligence norteamerican has falseado all documents and tests. and that the killer May and terrorist of the world is the america United States. the unica form to be able to gain these terrorists of the world, is to be united people and to fight, and paises arabes tendran that to rise against their corrupt gobenantes, already is hour to fight but, that this does not walk forwards, for that reason we are enslaved of the United States the world, of the greater assassin and terrorist of history, bloodthirsty and thieves.
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AiQadr
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Angela's plan sounds good. I hope it catches on. But, really. It depends on a modicum of good will that is nowhere present on the present political scene. Do you trust the World Bank to administer anything? (Read "Globalization and Its Discontents.") Besides, why on earth would the U.S. pull out? (Yeah, yeah. They pulled the "combat troops" out. They'll be right back as soon as the puppet there has a couple of strings break.) The U.S. Embassy complex there is the largest in the world. The country is positioning itself for the coming oil war and "popular sovereignty" be damned. Sorry.
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