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Posted: 05 March 2006 at 3:46pm |
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
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no Gentleness in a one-way ripple
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Antony-Islah
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this is me, and that is probably the best thing i have ever wrote
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salaams anthony are u a poet of some sort i like your style of writing. its very different and it alludes me cos i can never get to the crux of what u saying. yet im fascinated ny it none the less |
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Antony-Islah
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The Gospel Mark 4 10: And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11: And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
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So that the above response does not completely freak you out, and leave you thinking that because you don��t understand all parables, Allah {SWT} does not wish to forgive you, I have include the below quotes, which are descriptions of the Zen/Buddhist version of the parable, and explain why a person may not understand a parable/koan. A k��an (����; Japanese: k��an, Chinese: g��ng-��n) is a story, dialog, question, or statement in the history and lore of Chan (Zen) Buddhism, generally containing aspects that are inaccessible to rational understanding, yet that may be accessible to intuition. A famous koan is, "Two hands clap and there is a sound; what is the sound of one hand?" (oral tradition, attributed to Hakuin Ekaku, 1686-1769, considered a reviver of the koan tradition in Japan). �� "...the [Korean - tmc] term hwadu usually refers to the particular question itself as well as the state of mind to be cultivated through concentrating upon the question. [...] the term hwadu is also used as a virtual synonym for the Japanese term koan (K. kong an). Technically speaking, though, these terms differ in meaning. A koan - literally " a public case" - is a description of an entire situation, usually of a dialogue between a Zen master and his disciple; the hwadu is only the central point of the exchange which is then singled out as a topic for meditation." (Batchelor 1985:53) �� "The koans do not represent the private opinion of a single man, but rather the highest principle ... [that - tmc ] accords with the spiritual source, tallies with the mysterious meaning, destroys birth-and-death, and transcends the passions. It cannot be understood by logic; it cannot be transmitted in words; it cannot be explained in writing; it cannot be measured by reason. It is like [...] a great fire that consumes all who come near it." (Chung-feng Ming-pen [1263-1323] quoted in Miura and Sasaki 1966:5)
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ok this is way too deep for me ill stick to the basic stuff, thank you very much |
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Antony-Islah
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OK, but if you cut through the excess, it is as simple as saying � not everything can be understood with a mere glance�.. intellectual labels such as � the �sound� of water � get in the way of the actual experience, of what is essentially a lot more than the �sound of water�, as in its static state it does not make a sound��.. but with this simplified description arises the fact that, intellect walks away thinking it has understood, when in fact it is even further from understanding.
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