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StephenC 
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 Topic: Basic Islamic QuestionsPosted: 16 September 2006 at 4:52pm |
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God spoke directly to Moses (VII 143). So why didn't God speak directly to Muhammad? |
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 4:59pm |
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Satan is a deceiver (viii 48) Satan is a fallen angel. How did The Prophet know that it was really the Angel Gabriel and not Satan deceiving him? |
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 8:51am |
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Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaikum Hi stephen, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala chose to take Sayyidina Muhammad sallallhu alaihe wassalam to heavens but not any other messenger alaihis salaam. Islam does not consider satan to be a fallen angel but a Jinn. Secondly what Jibrael alaihis salaam brought could not have been forged by any creature so there is no question of it being satan. As why would Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala choose a disobedient slave who promised that he would mislead human kind. wassalam |
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Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 9:10am |
Because in the time of Musa there was no Jibril - yet. The khadith states that Jibril was there in the beginning before everything else but I think not. |
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 12:28pm |
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Ilyas (Elijah) was also a great prophet of God. Didn't he also go Heaven alive? Was not Isa (Jesus) also transported to Heaven alive by God? (Most Muslims believe Jesus was raised to heaven alive by God, while some scholars believe that he was indeed rescued but died before his ascension.[7]) How do we know that Muhammad (Isa, and/or Ilyas) went to Heaven alive? Where in the Qur'an does it state this? "Secondly what Jibrael alaihis salaam brought could not have been forged by any creature so there is no question of it being satan." Pardon my lack of knowledge, but what EXACTLY did Jibrael bring? Again, doesn't the Qur'an state that Satan deceives? How would Muhammad know the difference? Could you tell the difference?
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 12:37pm |
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"Islam does not consider satan to be a fallen angel but a Jinn." "And when We said to the angels:'Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.' So they prostrated themselves except Iblis (The Devil). He was one of the jinn..." Surat Al-Kahf, 18:50."
"Said to the angels...except Iblis (The Devil)" seems to me to say that Iblis (and other jinn) are a form of angels. For example the verse said "we said to men: Prostrate yourselves unto Adam. So they prostrated themselves except Rosemarie (a woman)" it would not be a perfect sentence, because it should have said "we said unto mankind" (which would include women) or "we said unto men and women". Am I missing something for I am told that the Qur'an is perfect. |
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 1:11pm |
Please elaborate on what you mean by directly, and please clarify the reason for asking the question? The idea of Gd speaking to man takes many forms. As an example, the Church claims Gd spoke to a whore. So Christians believe that Gd spoke to Moses and to a whore. What does this mean for Moses? Or for the whore for that matter? What conclusion can be reached?
I look forward to your clarification.
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 1:19pm |
Your assertion is only that. Let me clarify. Jews, who follow your OT, believe, in general, that Satan would be an agent of Gd (in terms that we are all some sort of agent of Gd) who carries out the Will of Gd. (this view is supported by your bible) Christians believe that Satan was a good angel who rebelled against Gd and then became a "fallen" angel. Muslims believe that Satan is an agent of Gd and Gd has no need to go into "battle" with Satan and his followers. The Angel Gabriel was not Satan simply based upon the context of revelation. 1) He could not have been Satan simply because Gd has authority to allow such an act or not. 2) The theology is contradictory to Satan. It is his anti-thesis.
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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