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George,

From you: "Are you saying that Muhammad was a Jew?  Would you please provide Muhammad's family tree.  Thanks.

Are you saying that Abraham, Issac, Ishmael, Jacob, Essau, Joseph and Benjamin were Jews? I don't have Muhammad's family tree with me but you can google and find that out, if you wish.

 

 

 

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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

George,

From you: "Are you saying that Muhammad was a Jew?  Would you please provide Muhammad's family tree.  Thanks.

Are you saying that Abraham, Issac, Ishmael, Jacob, Essau, Joseph and Benjamin were Jews? I don't have Muhammad's family tree with me but you can google and find that out, if you wish.

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The Jews say that Abraham was a Jew.
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I don't want to hear what the Jews say. There were no Jews at that time. Those were Hebrews. I want to hear from you as a Christian.

Let me have your response, please.
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ibnuarradi,

Greetings and Salaam Alaikum from Singapore. That was indeed a delight to have the family tree of our dear Prophet posted by you.

Thanks

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Reference for Jesse as contraction of Ishmail: Encyclopaedia Biblica, Rev. T. K. Cheyne D.Litt D.D., J. Sutherland Black M.A. LL.D., Vol. 3, under "Names," p. 3292, item 52.
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the actual entry for jesse has already been posted on this thread by me.  it does not show that jesse is a contraction of ishmael
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bmzsp - was that the official family tree? or one of the alternative versions?
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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

George,

Don't forget that Ishmael and his descendants also begot and were begetting children.

Was this ever in dispute?

Some of them must also have begotten children by marrying girls of  Issac's seeds. It was not just that only Issac's children begot in their own line.

Where is the proof for thisclaim? As I recall in Genesis 21 Ishmael was banished away before having children and wasn't seen until decades later.

There were plenty of other none Ishmaelites in the land for Isaac's children to begot with.

There must have been a lot of cross-begetting by Ishmael's children as it was quite common in those days.

Where is the proof of this claim?

I have read this too, ""Jesse is contracted from Ishamel." but I can't find it again. If I do, I will let you know.

I believe we cannot look at Mary's genealogy and say that it is the genealogy of Jesus. As Jesus had no earthly father, he is NOT from the line of David. Period. Even if the genealogy belonged to Joseph, still Jesus is NOT from the line of David. Period.
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