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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

When water evaporates it is gone forever and does not linger in the atmosphere for it to rise and become clouds and then fall again as rain. That is ludicrous. The water simply disappears, gone forever.

Why do you think that?  This didn't come from the Quran, did it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2015 at 2:53am
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


Why do you think that?� This didn't come from the Quran, did it?


What do you mean why do I think that?
Are you completely reliant on your science books that you've lost all of your logic and reasoning?

When water evaporates it is gone forever, lost, doesn't come back to earth magically.

Water level of the earth has to be constantly replenished. Never mind millions of years but let's look at the last fifty years and how much water has been lost. It must be a huge amount.

Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala replenishes this lost water to keep the equilibrium. He calls it 'the balance'.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2015 at 8:26am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

What do you mean why do I think that?

I mean, did you just make this up by yourself, or did someone teach it to you?

If I boil a kettle, I can watch the water "disappear"; but I can see clouds of water vapour where the steam is leaving the spout, so it's pretty obvious where the water is going.  I can also put a cold piece of metal in the path of the steam and watch the water reappear on its surface.  Isn't it reasonable to assume that it's the same water, and that it never really disappeared but was simply transformed into an invisible gas?

This is all very straightforward.  No need to make up stories about miraculous divine intervention.  Surely God has better things to do.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2015 at 3:09am
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


I mean, did you just make this up by yourself, or did someone teach it to you?If I boil a kettle, I can watch the water "disappear"; but I can see clouds of water vapour where the steam is leaving the spout, so it's pretty obvious where the water is going.� I can also put a cold piece of metal in the path of the steam and watch the water reappear on its surface.� Isn't it reasonable to assume that it's the same water, and that it never really disappeared but was simply transformed into an invisible gas?This is all very straightforward.� No need to make up stories about miraculous divine intervention.� Surely God has better things to do.


I understand and acknowledge your answer. However the vapor and the steam produced are sometimes lost meaning that it is not returned to the atmosphere and then come back down to earth as rain. It is gone. Lost.

Therefore, to equate the balance Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala sends down 'new fresh' water in the form of rain.
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Friday 21 August 2015

10:20 PM I arrived at the usual place and the moon has already lost it's light.

10:40 The moon has completely disappeared.

Today is the 6th day in the Islamic calendar and the this phenomena seems to start on this day. This also tends to be the time when there is a half moon.

Strange thing about this is that the moon just suddenly appears at this position. Previous day the moon was nowhere near the position it disappears.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2015 at 8:07am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:


Please do this test;Take a cotton thread and tie it to a rock or similar weight. Put the thread over a hook or something such that it will hang the weight vertically down. The higher the space the better. You will want to do it in doors because you don't want the wind blowing it about.The position on the floor that the weight settles at is directly below the position of the thread over the hook or other support. A plumb-line.Pull the weight up to the top of the space so it is near the hook and away from the ground, allow to settle. Take a candle or cigarette lighter and burn through the thread. This will cut the thread whilst not giving it any side ways motion. The weight will drop. It will not land exactly on the spot that was directly below the heigh point. It will land east of that position. This is because the heigh point is moving eastwards faster than the floor. If you can explain why this happens in some other way than the Earth rotating please tell us.


The weight can fall left, right, centre, east, west, north or south. No big deal.


It will always fall to the East.

It will always do this due to the fact that it is traveling around the Earth faster at a heigher level.

I have seen your new drivel about water and evaporation. You are just trolling now.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2015 at 11:04am
Saturday 22 August 2015

Today is the 7th of the islamic calendar and when I got to the spot the moon was already almost covered by the 'black cloud'. See the pics below.

You will see that the moon is partly covered then completely disappears the part of the moon is shown again for a few minutes before it disappears completely once again.

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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:


When water evaporates it is gone forever and does not linger in the atmosphere for it to rise and become clouds and then fall again as rain. That is ludicrous. The water simply disappears, gone forever.

Greetings Abu Loren,

Where do you think clouds come from then?  How do you think they are formed?
I mean, I can actually watch the clouds form, appear, and disappear again, since I live near the ocean. 
Where do you think humidity comes from?  It is the water in the air... the water that eventually forms into clouds as the sun lifts it upwards and it joins with other water molecules and appears as clouds.
Thin wispy clouds will often disappear from the sky even as I watch, as the heat of the sun in summer evaporates the water.
Other times clouds continue to grow and form into rain clouds, as water off the ocean is picked up on winds coming inward onto the land.
It's all really quite elementary and easy to observe.

What is your explanation for where clouds come from?  and why do they dissipate?
I am interested.  I find this discussion quite interesting. Smile

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