where is Palestine?

salman wrote: I feel so sad that Palestine is not in recognized in U.N. This is becoz israel-the terrorist has occupied the land of palestinian people. dear member,�if you are young enough please fight for your land against the israelis, so that palestine may be recognized in the world. president ahmedinijad quoted as wiping off israel from the world map. but now he will be sad to know that palestine itself is not recognized by different countries. may Allah give�the believers�victory over the disbelieving people. aameen.

It happend mostly because of 6 day war of 1967
The terrorism which the Israelis are facing is the terrible price they have to pay for invading Arab lands and chasing out of their homes into refugee camps. Though terrorism is wrong, this is a self inflicted wound. There is a terrible bias in favor of Israel in America - on one hand, they ask Palestinians to condemn terrorism (which they should), but, they do not show the same enthusiasm in cornering Jewish leaders to condemn occupation, nor do they ask them to accept that the Palestinians 'have the right to return' to their land.

If there was a foreign people who migrated to California and took it over because they think that God wants them to do so, Americans would be fighting that occupation to their utmost...


(hope this is not considered as going of topic)

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Salman posting again without a lick of proof, go figure.

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Salman,

I ask you which succeeded in getting your country more sympathy and eventually its freedom from England.  The First War of Indian Independence in 1857 which was fought violently and failed.  Or the long non violent struggle for freedom that ended with Indian Independence on 15 August 1947????

I believe in a Palestinian State.  I do not believe that anyone has a right to walk into a crowd of civilians and kill innocent people.

I had a friend who died in 2002 in a blast at Hebrew University.  That blast killed a Jew who was upset with the conflict and who was sympathetic to the Palestinian people.  He was a really great guy.  By killing indiscriminantly someone who 'could' be an enemy, they killed someone who was more likely an ally.  Benjamin Blutstein, was a good man, a jew and an American, but Ben did nothing to hurt anyone.  He didn't deserve to die.  He was just getting something to eat at school.  Jihadist are murderers.  Point blank.

If a Palestinian wants my support, friendship and sympathy to their cause, they cannot blow up innocent civilians.  They need to play the political game, get out, gain allies, put political pressure on Israel.  Show what's being done to the Palestinians without giving the Israeli government ammunition to make them villians and the settlers victims.  Ever time a suicide bomber kills civilians, the Palestinians are hurt MORE, not the Israelis, they just get more sympathizers against the evil jihadists. 

Brother Salman, please read your Quran.  The Prophet (pbuh) was a good and just man.  He would not be pleased with the deaths of innocent civilians.  And nor am I ignorant of what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians.  I just know that there are very good people in many places that are caught in the middle of this conflict.  Jew and Muslim.

Assalamu Alaikum!

Angela,

Your post is good except the use of terms such as "Jihadist are murderers" and "evil jihadists".

Jihad is an integral part of Islam, but it is not about blowing up innocent civilians. It is striving within oneself and fighting to defend and protect one�s faith, family and land. There is a noble cause behind Jihad, and you can only fight the army that is fighting with you or occupying you.

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YUSUFALI: Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
PICKTHAL: Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
SHAKIR: And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.

Peace