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Originally posted by zulqarnain zulqarnain wrote:

If there is any fan of Ali Sina aroung here, just go to examinethetruth.com. You'll get a nasty shock, how he lost a logical debate with a Muslim brother, who isn't well know; Nadeer Ahmad. And he used MATHS to defeat the apostate. YES MATHS!!! just read the debate.

Why not invite Ali Sina to debate you here?  He might have some relevant comments about the debate and junk. 

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I hope to debate against you George and Ali Sina in the public someday. God willing!
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abrah - you couldnt debate your own shadow.  just who is this ali sina bloke?
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Originally posted by fredifreeloader fredifreeloader wrote:

abrah - you couldnt debate your own shadow.  just who is this ali sina bloke?


Hello my friend Fredifeeloader,

Ali Sina is very famous.  He is an ex-Muslim and started his own website at FaithFreedom to express his views on Islam which aren't pretty, but I haven't read much of what he writes.  I think he is an atheist now and doesn't believe in any religion because of his experiences with Islam.  Muslims are not fond of him.  That's all I know about him.  From what little I know about Sina, AbRah could not win a debate with him under any circumstances. 

There are a lot of ex-Muslims out there that are vehemently against Islam, but a lot of them consider the Muslims a part of their "family" and care about them very, very much as all Christians should.

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Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

Originally posted by fredifreeloader fredifreeloader wrote:

abrah - you couldnt debate your own shadow.  just who is this ali sina bloke?


Hello my friend Fredifeeloader,

Ali Sina is very famous.  He is an ex-Muslim and started his own website at FaithFreedom to express his views on Islam which aren't pretty, but I haven't read much of what he writes.  I think he is an atheist now and doesn't believe in any religion because of his experiences with Islam.  Muslims are not fond of him.  That's all I know about him.  From what little I know about Sina, AbRah could not win a debate with him under any circumstances. 

There are a lot of ex-Muslims out there that are vehemently against Islam, but a lot of them consider the Muslims a part of their "family" and care about them very, very much as all Christians should.

Annie

Yes, I suspect anyone who says I am an ex-Muslim and then propagates incorrect ideas and hatred toward Islam would be very popular in certain circles.

I have read some of Ali Sina's works and his suppositions are ridiculous. He bases most of his theories on the fact that Muslims are mindless drones, with blind faith, who want to be led and controlled.

If this is the case, then why are so many Westerners accepting Islam?I am not a mindless drone, and I was never so inducted in the doctrine of blind faith as I was when I was a Christian.

I think the difference between ex-Muslims and Ex-Christians who accept Islam is that most Muslims revere the Prophet Jesus and all of the Prophets and Messengers that came before. Therefore, we do not feel free to spew hatred about our ex-religion or the people who practice it. I do not hate Christianity or Christians. Everyone in my family are Christians. How could I hate them? I feel that Christianity has gone astray of the original message of God, and I wish they would get back on the right track.

You have to be full of hate to speak the way Ali Sina does. I thank God that most Muslim reverts do not feel the way he does toward anyone.
It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, what is essential is invisible to the eye. (The Little Prince)
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Hey Fred and AnnieTwo

You don't know me...I wish someday I will face Ali Sina, George, you Fredi etc in public debates and we will see whether you and your cronies can beat me in the debates or vice versa.

I quote AnnieTwo's statement: 'From what little I know about Sina, AbRah could not win a debate with him under any circumstances.' How little you know about Sina when you say that Sina could beat me in a debate. 

Knowledge will defeat Ali Sina. You don't know me and you are prejudging me. You are not fair to yourselves and me.



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He has already been proved wrong by many scholars, no need to take on the challenge... its already done...
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Say Insha Allah brother AbRah.

If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.  
(  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #160)

May Allah give you strength and victory.
Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper).
(Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)
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